Normal Game Thread Full Metal Panic!: Fighting Boy Meets Girl Mafia

I mean i totally didn't say that before, but okay. Sniffles.

Now if i was in you guys position is get some sort of cop onto me n1 then leave the silly thing be.

I mean ive said this before but whenever i play mafia i only play for myself really. If someone doesnt like that, then lynch me but i always stick by my playstyle.

 

Actually make that investigate me or evil.

 

If i think it gets to a point where i could die ill try and protect myself. Im not 100% stupid &.&

 

glob aside, what do you think of the others after catching up?

 

don't sniffle ok

might as well use your protection on me, and everything would be settled

 

Musings why would i do that when you could well be scum?

It'd prove my innocence but that could be a plan to leave anyone else open

 

> voting to lynch doc cos you don't like the playstyle


...nigga what?

 

that's finally an answer that gives me hope

 

Misings i dont quite know what to say to that

 

Apologies for my absence over the weekend. Was busier than usual.

Eh, I'm not really much for spite. That said, there aren't a lot of what I'd consider priority targets in this game, so I could see me killing Ningen, were I Scum.

I mean, 3 seems fairly unlikely. I don't know flavor, but it would be incredibly strange for Mafia to abstain their kill. Its not unheard of for a secondary Anti-Town faction like an SK to abstain, because they can try to pretend like there's just one Anti-Town faction, but a Mafia very rarely has the luxury of being able to assume that there is another killing Anti-Town faction to conceal their presence.

At the end of the day, if there is a second Anti-Town faction, they either abstained, don't have a kill yet, have a delayed kill (Poisoner, Terrorist, etc), or have a conversion. For the time being, we don't really have any evidence to suggest there is a second Anti-Town faction, unless flavor strongly supports it, and I'd rather not be chasing my tail when we can focus on the threat at hand.

In either case, it's Day 1, so there should be no danger in assuming a single Anti-Town faction for the time being. We're not really in a position to hunt specific Scum, so its not really worth troubling over. It is weird to me, though, that you condemn Falcon trying to theorize which player made the kill, then follow that up by theorizing about flavor and mechanics stuff.

Why would you just claim, completely unprompted?

For the record, please do not claim unless a consensus has been reached, or claiming has an immediate benefit for the Town. Claiming because one person is kinda suspicious of you is not helpful.

What? No. That's not how this works. You don't just claim when you have a useless role, even if its easy to confirm (which yours is not, since we'd need to either out your partner or trust you enough to set up an L-1 on a confirmed female character and have you hammer to see if the lynch goes through). By claiming when you have a useless role, you make it easier for Scum to hunt power roles.

Guys, why? Why do you do this to me? That's three unprompted claims now!

I'm not sure I follow. You found Falcon's dismissal of Evil suspicious, and Maple did not. And Maple also found your behavior surrounding it suspicious.

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A) Not only does he pair Town and non-Town as Masons, but there was just such a pair in the last game he ran that you and I participated, the Death Note game on OJ, where he paired Town with an Indie. In another game, he paired a Mafioso with Town. Masonship is not intrinsically indicative of Townness in Ratchet games.

B) No it doesn't. You can't hammer. Big ******* deal. Unless you attempting to hammer a female character would either end Day in a no lynch or result in you being modkilled, we didn't need to ******* know about it. ****, even if it did result in one of those two things, we didn't ******* need to know about it. Just don't hammer. It's not hard.

For the exact same reason you wouldn't share whether you intend to self-protect. Because doing so is actively harmful to the Town, and has no balancing benefit for the Town.

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Anyway, I investigate innocent.

Has Claimed Inno/Guilty
@Crimson Falcon - Guilty (#6)
@Globear - Innocent (#7)
@poutanko - Innocent (#11)
@EvilGenius - Innocent (#12)
@SK - Innocent (#13)
@Dr. White - Innocent (#14)
@Railgun99 - Innocent (#17)
@Shanksette - Innocent (#21)
@Prada - Innocent (#61)
@Lord Maple - Innocent (#83)
@Rotaretilbo - Innocent (this post)

Has Posted, but Not Claimed Inno/Guilty
@Crispickle

Has Not Posted
@Venomous Cobra
@daoko

 

well I will get to the rest of the post at a later point since I am cooking right now.

I think it's a big deal. I don't know for what reason I got such a restriction here, but it might mean that one of the female players is actually scum or is somehow important to the game. Or if I scumread a female player and there are enough votes on her for me to hammer and yet I don't do it. It would make me look odd overall hence I claimed that restriction.

Reason I claimed mason is pretty much that people know that I am in contact with someone. I want to get a better read on that person for the time being for now since you stated Ratchet makes scum/town masons (actually I thought that the death notes masons were both indies).

I won't reveal my mason here (and I hope that person doesn't claim like me here already. Would prefer if that person makes it to lylo, if that person is actually town as well)

 

The basis of the restriction is almost certainly flavor. That's fundamental. Your role is inspired primarily by flavor.

Whether or not there are female characters that make sense as Scum is better determined by looking at the flavor.

And if you really find yourself in a situation where you want to hammer but can't (which, frankly, you could easily avoid altogether), you can soft claim Priest then and have someone unvote to let you vote and they hammer.

So no, still not a big deal, still not a reason to hardclaim out the gate.

We don't need to know you're in contact with someone until its actually relevant. Right now, on Day 1, with zero legitimate suspicion on you, it is not relevant.

 

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@Rotaretilbo Yeah in the end i agree with you about the scum factions. That's why i think i have said that if there is possibly SK i just corrected myself from my first post with time that he is prolly evolving in some way or has later on kills if there is one that is. A possible only mafia faction seems possible too.


Well i am to be honest ready to lynch an inactive as day 1 lynch. For now from the active i have my susp on some people but still not anything worth.

Vote daoko

 

Sorry for the long silence, also I'll be kinda busy until Sunday, but I'll be able to maintain some level of activity.

Not a fan of G l o b e a r's selfish play, as if Cop was there just to make her confirmed Town, please... But although it looks like baiting Cop to target her (which would be scum play if she had a role like harming whoever targets her for example, which I find unlikely in a Ratchet game), it's not enough to warrant a scum read from me. It could also be just selfish townie. Not sure if I want the Cop on her, I'd rather she got confirmed by an action.

And yeah, what's with this claiming left and right anyway >_>?

At this point I don't have any strong reads but lynching an inactive may not be very informative no? Though if the phase doesn't get extended it may end up being the only way to get consensus.

 

I'm tentatively in favor of lynching one of our two lurker pals, mostly because I'm not sure if I can justify any further claims today, and I'm not really comfortable lynching any of the players that have currently claimed.