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Discussion in 'Chatroom Corner' started by Kaito, Mar 27, 2018.

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  1. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    Damn it globie!!!
     
  2. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    I wanted to respond to individual points but it turned into way too long and ugly piece of text. How to get rid of the feeling

    My family is the reason, all the shit goes to them in case of suicide. Why would I do that to them


    I never said I'm having the worst time/situation/condition in the world. I'm talking about the facts, how much I am behind literally and virtually EVERYONE I live around. In so many aspects that's unbelievable. Secondary school that was like a crash into the wall of reality. So many people I have never seen in my life, away from home for the first time in my life.. Meeting people that all surpass me in everything. Some people learn/grow slower? Cool, but at the moment I am 5 years past that moment and still cannot even dream of jumping to the level these people, my secondary school friends were THEN. What is the key, what do I do? I have no idea and thats the problem. Im borderline socially retarded, literally afraid of any contact with people I don't know and out of contact with 99% of people I know. No idea how to move on.

    Nevermind, that's all

    Okay, that's the end, I'm not posting this shit anymore I promise.
     
  3. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    You upset me at time. I dun like to say it but it's the truth.
    You have limitless oppurtunities ahead of you. As far as I know you dont have any massive trauma, no massive injuriies, no massive issues besides from depression and anxiety (of course they are major, but other then that)

    How I would live for that.

    To be able to do something without assistance, all because of my brain to get to bike ride without worry of getting sick n dying.

    Im jealous of you.
    So for the love of goodness, begin to count your blessings in life, because everyone has their issues, but people would kill to be in your position.

    You can have skills, or even money young like me, but it doesnt mean anything without a quality of life.
     
  4. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    No more
     
  5. Gobb finds a way

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    I know this may seem generic, or maybe you think "no shit," but I feel like a lot of this will be a snowball effect of a stable source of income. Working somewhere stably will build confidence and social skills, provide income for financial dependence and make you more comfortable in general along with meeting new people. Before I got my current job I was out of anything for quite a while, I did some study and that and volunteer stuff, but still. I used to get a bit anxious too, tend to be a bit more of a social recluse, but since getting this being stable, things have all snowballed in line really. Not saying it's easy to get something, because I sure as hell know how hard it can be, and there's nothing more awful to have people make it out like it's easy, or you just aren't trying when you're doing all you can.
     
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  6. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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  7. But I want you to respond to the points I made. I want you to engage with those arguments because the purpose of my post wasn't to give you a pep-talk with no substance what so ever, rather it was to provide actual arguments for why your belief that you're worthless is unjustified. I can't tell you how to "get rid" of the feeling since I'm not a psychologist, but as someone who likes philosophy and logic what I can do is argue against the notion which you continuously present and which I find to be plain false.

    If I can prove to you that your feeling has nothing to do with reality then, even if that feeling persists, it will be easier to cope with as you can always look at the reasons I've mentioned and remind yourself that all the voices that are telling you you're worthless are wrong.

    It doesn't matter if your response will be long. Long posts aren't bad, they help us express our thoughts in greater detail and are far more useful for dismantling problems like the one you have then just short quips. Besides, what do you have to lose? Don't tell me you're wasting time because if you really think you're worthless, your time is of no worth at all so it doesn't matter if you "waste it" talking to me. I aimed to present sound arguments against your belief in that post and if you think those arguments are flawed then you should provide objections to them. I remember you posting about how bad the arguments for silly beliefs like Flat Earth are. This gave me the impression that you value logic and reason, so I expect you to present actual arguments. Point is to discuss and think.

    I wasn't being completely serious in that post (hence why I made the bigger one), but I did touch on the idea which I talked about in my serious post. You don't want to commit suicide because you think it will have a negative impact on your family. In saying that, you've implied that you do in fact have value because if you didn't have any value your family wouldn't care if you killed yourself or not. They would at best be indifferent.

    The fact that they want you to live goes to show that they do find you valuable ie they ascribe value to your life.

    So you won't talk to us about this anymore? Ok, cool. What will you do then? You say you have no one irl to talk to, so what will you do? Just keep it all to yourself? You said that you can't figure it out on your own so what will that accomplish? The only reasonable thing you can do is talk to other people about it.
     
  8. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    We want you to talk about it @Schpittfeuer but it's also thus important chu hear what we have to say, we dont mean meaness or to be rude, we jush wan chu to see different viewpoints
     
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  9. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    What else can I do? It's not like anyone else can solve this anyway and especially not in the internet

    I hear
     
  10. You can accept what we're telling you as valid reasons for why your attitude towards yourself is wrong or you can challenge what we're saying in a constructive manner.

    Both are better then shutting yourself off and wallowing in self-pity.
     
  11. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    Chu underestimate the power of FRIENDSHIP
     
  12. Gobb finds a way

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    night guys!
     
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    We want him to win the card game
     
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  14. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    Goodnight, less pervy snoop :aizen
     
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  15. Been so long since I had a non-Shinobu themed profile lol
     
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