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  1. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    I swear, Aizen's strategies always include some way to screw with Hinamori and/or Hitsugaya. This time it was both. I mean... The dude could have swapped himself with anyone else who was out of combat: Hisagi, Kira, Iba, even Hiyori or Hachi. But he chose Hinamori specifically to fukk with her and Hitsugaya.

    Also... You have to wonder how freaking fast he had to do all this, because Ichigo did not notice the swap at all, and he himself is as fast as Byakuya (the fastest of the mid-tier captains).

    As far as Kido spells (both Hado and Bakudo) are concerned: The higher the spell number, then:

    1. The more powerful the spell (also depends on the reiatsu and skill of the user).

    2. The more difficult to perform is the spell (which means greater mastery is required from the user).

    3. The more difficult to perform is the with spell incantation abandonment i.e. without the starting incantation.

    Both Hado and Bakudo range from #1 to #99.

    Yama-jii was able to cast Hado 96 with full effect without incantation, which indicates that he is a high level Kido master. Even Aizen can cast Hado 90 at only one-third power without incantation (per Aizen's own admission).

    Unohana and Isane are also both Kido masters. Kaido (healing Kido) is more difficult to maser than Bakudo (easiest) and Hado (harder than Bakudo, but easier than Kaido). The fact that Unohana and Isane are Kaido masters means they should also masters of the other branches of Kido.

    And regarding Danku, @Gobb
    Byakuya is a confirmed Kido master. Anyone who can casually cast 80s level Kido without incantation is a Kido master, and Byakuya is a confirmed to have achieved Zankensoki (mastery of all four Shinigami combat arts) in the data books.

    Tessai and Hachi have both used Bakudo 99 with full effect. We have so far not yet seen anyone use Hado 99.

    As far as I recall, from the manga, data books, and novels: Hado 96 and up are actually forbidden. In the manga (it was cut-out from the anime) Aizen explicitly explains that Hado 96 is a forbidden sacrificial spell (because the user has to sacrifice a part of their body or even the entire body in order to use the spell). Hado 97 and up are forbidden because they fukk with space & time in some manner.

    Hado 99 specifically is forbidden for messing with the reimyaku (spirit pulse lines) of the realm in which it is used, leading its usage to potentially destabilise the world. Translation: Anyone who uses Hado 99 can potentially wreck the entire world in which it is being used.

    ^ Note: I don't consider this a spoiler, since it comes from supplementary material.
     
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  2. Gobb finds a way

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    Yeah it does. A lot of people really hate Hinamori, I kind of just feel bad for her. She really idolized Aizen, and he obviously cultivated that side of things in the worst way, and for his use/amusement and just basically liked to mind **** her once he dropped the mask, same with Toshiro. 100%.

    Yeah, I mean all of his abilities are off the charts, which makes sense because he basically indicated he'd reached the limit of his potential as a Shinigami.

    Yeah, that makes sense complexity and strength, obviously strength can mean a range of things. I do we we saw more if Kido in general, because it has almost limitless potential. But it's also a little hard to display a lot of it. Kurohitsugi is a favourite though. xD Was 99 what Tessai used back during the hollowfication incident?
    294 was great. I always felt like Wonderweiss was overly convenient, but nonetheless it was nice to see a little bit of Yamamoto in action and it makes sense Aizen has a plan to deal with him. Yamamoto just shrugged off the no sword disadvantage and thew hands. xD I think that was the first time Aizen's smug in control face broke, when Yamamoto grabbed his leg/foot. Ichigo took good use of the potential opening to launch another Getsuga Tensho.
     
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  3. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    I don't know why fans hate on Hinamori when bloody Aizen himself said he groomed her so as not to be able to live without him. And she still mustered the courage to go into active combat against his faction.

    Personal favourite Hados for me are #4: Byakurai and #88: Hiryu Gekizoku Shinten Raiho (damn, that is a mouthful).

    Personal favourite Bakudo is #61: Rikujokoro.

    That big blue lightning blast? No that was Hado #88: Hiryu Gekizoku Shinten Raiho.

    Hachi used Bakudo #99, Level 1: Kin against Kensei during the Hollowfication incident. Tessai also Bakudo #99, Level 2: Bankin during Ichigo's training under Urahara.

    Wonderweiss being made specifically to use against Yama-jii makes sense, considering Aizen is the kind of guy to plan for anything & everything. Ditto for the likes of Kurotsuchi and Urahara i.e. they also have the mentality.

    Then you have Szayelaporro, who was overconfident in his abilities and was kicked out of the scientist club by Kurotsuchi.

    Speaking of...

    @Laraib
    @Gobb
    Y'all want to know where some of the Espada's Hollow holes are? Some of them are in absolutely crazy places.
     
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  4. Gobb finds a way

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    Yup, 100%. Always felt bad to see too.

    Those three are absolute classics!

    Haha, what's not to love.

    Ah, ok. Nah, I was thinking of what he used i think to pause time, or help transport them, unless that was anime only.

    Yeah, 100% makes sense, it's just me wanting to have seen more of Yamamoto at the time. xD

    I think I recall Harribel's being her womb wasn't it? I feel like Szayelaporro's was also in some fucked place. xD Not sure about others so too so feel free.
     
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    The time-stop and spatial translocation spells are in the manga as well. And they are un-categorized forbidden spells.

    Aaroniero: Left thigh

    Szayelaporro: Glans (head of the penis)
    His human self used to be an alchemist in Europe. His twin brother Yylfordt was a warlord who would bring him prisoners of war to torture and experiment on. Some fans have speculated that Szayel may have raped some of them as well, based on some novel information and the name of his Resurreccion.

    Zommari: Where his right nipple used to be.

    Lupi: Unknown, but rumoured to be in a really fukked up place.

    Harribel: Yup. Her uterus. Given this, her aspect of death, and her fondness for and kindness towards children, some fans have speculated that her human self died during childbirth.

    Nelliel: Heart.
    Also, a fun fact for you and @Laraib
    Nelliel has the largest bust size among Bleach's female characters, according to Kubo himself. Even larger, allegedly, than a character I wish not to name right now due to spoilers.

    Baraggan: Centre of his chest; which is weird, considering he is a skeleton. What, is it on the manubrium or sternum? We have never seen his chest. This was revealed in data books.
     
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    Oh, right, I do recall them being forbidden, makes sense not categorized, I suppose as they do seem to be entirely different with what they do.

    Reasonable.

    I thought it was something like that, but wasn't 100%. xD That's interesting, the latter wouldn't be a surprise with how he acted.

    Bruh.

    Bro has two assholes confirmed. xD

    I thought so as I vaguely recalled some speculation about that.

    Now that you mention heart, that seems familiar, I might have read it somewhere at some point.

    Yeah, interesting with him being a skeleton lol. I guess it would be somewhere there.
     
  7. Laraib aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    Crazy
     
  8. Laraib aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    I thought it was Rangiku but oh well xD
     
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  9. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    Everyone thought it was Rangiku or [spoiler character who has already actually been named in a flashback]. Nelliel was a surprise.
     

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