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London under attack!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by JoeJoe, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    Well i honestly dont know how border control and stuff words over there, to be honest &.&
     
  2. Kamiyama モニカ

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    It's practically non-existent. Say you're a 15-year old from Syria while being a 19-year old from Morocco, show forged papers and you're in.

    And someone is making a lot of money from this shitshow, because I don't think anyone would want the border control to be so lax.
     
  3. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    Well then they do need to make the border control stronger but not just refuse entry
     
  4. Kamiyama モニカ

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    To be honest, if it happened, not many of them would come in.

    But yeah, this is exactly my point.
     
  5. Nawwi Newbie Member

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    Regardless of your flawed info about Islam, Every religion peace concept only applies to their adherents however in Islam you're not allowed to kill any innocent soul (Muslim or Non-Muslim). Also rape and theft are not welcomed in Islam and heavily prohibited.

    Helping them is common sense.

    Islamophobics, everywhere :smith
     
  6. Glowbeary Tentacle Taco +.+

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    Well if they wanted to badly theyd try their hardest right in that situation? So it wouldnt impact too much
     
  7. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    Not wanting false refugees to roam free and attack citizens has nothing to do with islamophobia. That's common sense.

    Not wanting children to be ripped and torn apart on streets of Europe is not islamophobia. That's common sense.

    Not wanting long centuries of Western civilization being destroyed is not islamophobia. It's common sense.

    If West is oh so islamophobic- please refugees, stop flooding in. We'll do just fine without your presence.

    Besides. If there is any other belief system that did better job spreading "peacefully" through blood and sword through thousand and half years of existence- I have yet to hear about it.

    Islamic countries: Stoning rape victims, restricting human laws and freedoms, honor killings aand so on. Peaceful my ass to say the least.

    Sadly abusing human rights in 82652 other ways is not. Please, try to defnd honor kilings. Try to defend child forced marriage. Try to defend criminalization of apostasy and sexual minorities. That could be amusing.


    Islamophobia argument- check. Now just call me racist and throw "but crusades" and I'll be sure who are we dealing with. Or rather, who not to deal with anymore.




    I just had to. I hate when someone jumps into discussion and throws his flawed knowledge left and right and if you have different opinion- you have a phobia.

    I'd gladly take being called racist and islamophobe if that's the price for not having terrorists in my country. Because safety of citizens, safety of who's dear for me is more important than what poor economical fake refugee will say about me. In fact I don't give a single **** about what refugees have to say. Their demands are not more important than any single life of citizen of EU. And that's what West forgot about.
    Islamization of Europe has to stop.
     
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  8. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    If Polexit saves us from forced refugee invasion- bye bye EU. I won't miss ya.
     
  9. Kamiyama モニカ

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    To be honest, Friedman scenario seems to be developing in an alarming rate.

    • Within the next decade the United States will build new regional power balances by creating competing relationships, which offset one another, in the world's different regions.
    • A second American Cold War with Russia will occur in the 2010s. - Check. Euromaidan, Crimean annexation and Donbass War.
      • Russia will ally with Germany, will make attempts to expand its sphere of influence, and will continue to build up its military to the point where it can pose a challenge to the United States. - While not allied, Russia and Germany have close economic relations, the Nord Stream 2 gas pipe is one of the recent examples of it.
      • Around 2015, the United States will become a close ally to some Eastern European countries, who will be dedicated to resisting Russian geopolitical threats during this period. - Trump is elected in November 2016, Eastern Europe seems to be following the same course the Trump administriation does in 2017.
        • America will become a close ally of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Romania, who may form a Polish-led military alliance during this period, which Friedman refers to as the "Polish Bloc". - Visegrad Group (V4) countries are in opposition to the EU migrant policies, as well are being led by conservative parties just like the United States are now led by right-wing Donald Trump, which causes a rift between the liberal, cosmopolitan West and conservative, mostly monoethnic East.
      • Around the year 2020, Russia will collapse, fragment, and disintegrate from the economic and political pressure of a Second Cold War. - So far, there are no signs for Russia to have any major instabilities, although it still faces sanctions due to Ukraine Crisis.
      In the near future, we would have the following if Russia and China get unstable:
    • By 2020 China will politically and culturally fragment as well.
      • Internal pressures and inequalities in Chinese society will result in regional fragmentation of the country, primarily to economic reasons. China will remain formally united, but the central government of China will gradually lose much of its real power. - As the Romance of the Three Kingdoms says "The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been." There are no signs of it happening in the near future, though.
    • The collapse of central authority in Russia and fragmentation in China will leave Eurasia in general chaos, allowing the secession and annexation of numerous regions.
      • Chechnya and other Muslim regions, as well as the Pacific Basin will secede from Russia - Neo-Ottoman Sphere if Turkey continues on it's current path and the Russian Federation fragments.
      • Finland will annex Karelia - They have valid claims on it, so it's plausible.
      • Romania will annex Moldova - Ethnically and lingustically similiar, but Moldova has pro-Russian tendencies due to being part of the USSR. Nevertheless, Romanian Anschluss is possible.
      • Tibet will gain independence with Indian assistance - India's support of Tibetan independence would be a very real possibility if China is destabilized.
      • Taiwan will extend its influence into China - Kuomintang making its comeback to the mainland
      • The United States and European nations create regional spheres of influence in China. - Divide and Conquer, possible puppet governments in the fragmented states of China.
    • In the 2020s and 2030s, three main powers will emerge in Eurasia.
      • Turkey will expand its sphere of influence into the Arab world, which will have increasingly fragmented by then, and into what was once Russia and the former Soviet Union. - Potential Neo-Ottoman Empire, Erdogan seems to be leading Turkey in that direction, and influencing the areas formerly under their control, as well as the Turan would be one of their goals.
      • Japan will expand its influence to Chinese regions and many Pacific Islands. - Possible resurgence of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere
      • Poland will continue to dominate Eastern Europe through the "Polish Bloc". - Visegrad Group countries will either secede from the European Union, or will become the federation's counterpart to Byzantium/East Roman Empire, mirroring the infamous split of the Roman Empire in 395 AD. Visegrad may expand their membership to Croatia, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic States, leading to the consolidation of Józef Piłsudski's concept of Intermarium that was one of the Polish ambitions during the interwar period as a factual political bloc.
     
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  10. Tafana What Title?

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    Call me optimistic or not!. So much racism and religion binding among the humans!. Why do everyone are forgetting that we all are equally humans altogether. Religions and races are another. The first and foremost is 'we are humans' and we all are one and the same!. The country I am from.... there was a caste discrimination and is still!.

    The terror attack in London is as painful as the terror attacks that have happened till now!. Minor or major!. A loss is a loss!. Sometimes I can't help but wonder from where the terrorism stems from?!. Is it from the indifference?!. Religions cult?!. Wrong Teaching?!. Or simply their absolute try to impose and spread their terror intent?
     
  11. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    It is sad that the world is getting more and more fucked up and no one does shit to stop this.. All that matters is some imaginary power for people on the top...
     
  12. Kamiyama モニカ

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    The money must flow. Also why would they care for cattle, anyway?



    If only you knew how bad things really are.
     
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  13. Aeryn daydream in blue

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    Reading some of the things said in this thread like.....

    :ng9
     
  14. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    It's impossible. Just that. People cannot co exist. Take group of 3 people that get along well, put them in one room, take another 3 and put them in another. Wait how long will it take for them to try to force their will over another group. Put one man in charge. Wait till he starts treating other 5 like shit. Give power to 3, watch as they abuse power over other 3.

    That is nature of humans. Vile, anger, discord, wrongdoing and revenge. And when you put ideology in the middle its a straight path to disaster.


    There are no minor terrorist attacks. Every single one is equally horrible and abominable. The ones that take 150 dead and the one that takes 1 dead. It's always a mother losing son, wife losing husband, parents losing child or otherwise. It's all equally terrible, insane and wrong.

    But saying "just move on" won't do. In the first place safety of people should be ensured. Not increase the level of danger and then going easy with "pray for..." and "just move on".


    From where terrorism comes from? Officially from extremist beliefs.

    Not oficially- all of this is fault of delusional politicians that have possibility to decide about life of millions and that at some point did something to allow extremist group to take advantage. If a politician decided randomly to kill you right now, you'd be dead within 24 hours and he'd never face any punishment. Bribes, friends at right places, and so on. That's the world you live in. And that's why it is fucked up and there will be never any equality nor world peace.
     
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  15. Kamiyama モニカ

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    "You will live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension" - Nikola Tesla

    Also, the Friedman Scenario discussion will be made in another thread for those interested in geopolitics.
     

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