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Semifinals: Madara Uchiha VS Gilgamesh

Discussion in 'Tournament Archive' started by Mahesvara, Dec 15, 2015.

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Who's the better Villain?

Poll closed Dec 17, 2015.
  1. Madara Uchiha

    3 vote(s)
    20.0%
  2. Gilgamesh

    12 vote(s)
    80.0%
  1. Noblesse Newbie Member

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    He's a character in the world of "Fate."
     
  2. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Lmao this
     
  3. Kame Heaven's Feel

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    tbh
     
  4. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Anime, Visual Novel, Light Novel, Manga, etc.
     
  5. Monstaa Godly Member

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    what the **** 8 to 2 GG
     
  6. Venomous Cobra A Causal Real One

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    Isn't rai(nobelesse) arrogant sometimes as well?
    OT:Gilgamesh wins comfortably imo
     
  7. Bling Kai Junior Member

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    I don't know what fact amazes me more the fact that a gamma ray generates more energy inna second than the sun will produce in its entire life time or that Madara made it this far into the tournament.

    If he makes it pass this round too, then **** figuring out how to get to mars we need to figure out how this shit keeps happening.
     
  8. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    The bracket was randomly generated and Madara got lucky with who he went up against tbh and this is coming from someone who likes Madara lol.
     
  9. Monstaa Godly Member

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    my lord madara has no chance
     
  10. Bling Kai Junior Member

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    Nah madara was lucky there was Naruto bais voters on this site cause he seriously is not even villain material.

    He adds nothing new to the series is a copy of Obito (whom is a copy of another villian in the series) they even go by the same name at one point. Even worse he is a goody guy that saves the world from conflict something the main character tries and fails to do. He is only a villian due to the fact that the protagonist oposes him. Everything else about the guy screams hero/protaganist/good guy ect.

    When considering all of this just looking at his first round proves the Naruto bais is real for Maddy.

    Vegeta loses to a obvious HERO forced into villian role in a vote for better VILLIAN!? Hell he even beat out Kira! Now i know his is just about opinions in just saying the common opinion for Maddy that got him so far in this vote is pure Naruto bais. Also Im not mad just surprised Maddy got so far.
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2015
  11. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Madara killed thousands of people just for getting in his way, that doesn't scream hero at all, even if the end justifies the means. Madara has nothing in common with pedobito, besides both being pawns of Black Zetsu. Anyways Madara IS an antagonist, so there's no point of arguing about this.
     
  12. Bling Kai Junior Member

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    So have the so called good guys in Naruto killing is determined good/bad through bais point of view which is the basis of all things good and bad. Hashirama killed several uchihas yet is considered the good o e out of him and madara why is that? Because of bais point of view. They are pretty much the same.

    And story wise Maddy and obito are also the same they have the exact same plan and goals just slightly different motivations. Arguing this is ludicrous. Take Maddy out and what would be different? The plan would still be the same as well as the means of going about it we just see it happen twice with those two. They dont add anything new or different to the plot and being different people doesn't count.

    Also didn't say madara wasn't an antagonist/villain I said he is written like the opposite of one. When he and the main character are trying to cease all conflict in the world al and the main character fails terribly at doing this and Maddy(the so called villain) succeeds this basically means he did the heros job. Unless kishi was trying to make Naruto look like a failure this is a serious fundamental problem with the structure of the story in Naruto and it makes madara appear as the hero since he did the heros job. Which means there isn't any distinction anymore as to whom the villain is so madara loses credibility to be a villain and looks like what he IS that being a protaganist forced onto villain role. Probably unintentionally but that's what he IS.
     
  13. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Lol killing a few people doesn't compare to killing thousands, what ludicrous reasoning. Not to mention trying to subjugate the entire world and play god is an evil in it's own right.

    You seem to forget that Obito only became similar to Madara, because of Madara's manipulation. Before he was a copy and paste of Naruto. Your argument for this is completely backwards, how can Madara be a copy of Obito, when Madara made Obito into a copy of himself?

    :loss
     
  14. Bling Kai Junior Member

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    Point is both the good and bad guys in the series kill bais views on the subject of killing give them the good or bad label. Because good and bad are different views of a subject not diffrent FACTS on the subject. So nothing like the amount of times one person has killed over the other which is a fact matter when discussing this because its just bais otherwise we would never take into consideration the reason for killing just the qauntitiy of the kills as to determine how bad it is or not.

    And as for the rest i don't think you will understand my point unless you where writer yourself so lets just agree to disagree for now.
     
  15. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Poll is closed, Gilgamesh wins and advances to the finals.
     

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