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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Gobb, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    That is personality cult day.

    15th August will be forever Genocidal Balatkaari day or Balatkaari Celebration day, given last year's bs with Bilkis Bano's assailants.

    I swear, there is no scope for massive change and revolution here.
     
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    @Gobb
    Moving that topic here.

    China actually has a strongly diversified economy that can last a while. They'd be able to hold out for a while in the case of complete global economic collapse. 100% self-sufficiency on most fronts is their biggest asset. Sure, they rely on some minerals from Latin America and Africa for the shit they make, but they're still mostly self-reliant. They also currently lead the world in renewable energy innovation and its per-capita implementation. They even have the reserves needed to tell the WBG to go fukk itself. Heck, they have so much money that they're building infrastructure for allied nations in Africa with no strings attached (the Chinese debt trap is a lie, by the way) and made an offer to the previous Argentinian regime to pay off that country's IMF debt in full (and then the sister-fukker Javier Milei came along).

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    Any nation with sufficient reserves to pay off the debts of other major economies (China can easily pay off the debts of Brazil, Argentina, South Africa right now) and with no strings attached...? Yeah, that doesn't seem like an economy that is on the brink of collapse to me, buddy.

    Meanwhile, the US economy is built off of taking resources from the global south and selling it back to them. That and a ponzi scheme global monetary system. Their downfall began with Reagan, when they went full neolib retard. They shot themselves in the dick and have to pay the price. Same story with the UK, France, Italy, and Germany (who are all seeing severe issues across the board).

    As for the solution to the world's US problem:
    The US isn't going anywhere unless they Balkanize via civil war or they have a socialist revolution. Really hoping for the latter and not the former, considering those genocidal maniacs have two-thirds (66% or so) of the world's current nuclear weapons yield (while only having 4.2% of the population). The former is also unlikely, given the way the US is structured to begin with, and could possibly only be brought about by something so unimaginably bad that it has near total global fallout.

    So...
    Come on US socialists. Revolution.
     
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  3. Gobb

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    So basically, it's just largely a bunch of anti-china propaganda. xD

    Seems like we agree the only way the us would go anywhere would be if there was internal conflict on the scale of a civil war. Even then, it might just change things, not necessarily remove it from power. But yeah, if strife internally occurs within the US it wouldn't leave the global scale untouched I'd imagine.
     
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    It's not like they don't have issues. China does have some severe issues (that could be their undoing) that fly under the radar of even anti-China right-wingers and centrist liberals; probably because those dick waffles can't even begin to comprehend those issues in the proper cultural or historical or material context. But countries such as India as well as the US and their vassal states are all faring worse, I think. Heck, under Modi, India probably has to be included in the US vassal state list.

    And, yes, Australia is also unfortunately one of Uncle Sam's bitches right now; even going as far as to act as Uncle Sam's personal hitman in some cases. And I'm not even exaggerating about the hitman part.

    Uncle Sam's tentacles reach so far and wide, that anything that happens in that country has far-reaching global ramifications. Shit you can't even imagine. And they'd take half the world with them economically.
     
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  5. Gobb

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    Yeah, but to be fair, I think that pretty much every country has its own issues. Depending on the issue can depend on the severity of it and its impacts.

    Yeah, I don't think that would end up benefitting anyone really.
     
  6. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    Well, China is currently looking at a tug of war between three factions among the nation's youth:
    Maoists who want to go back to USSR-Mao-Cuba style socialism and crack down on an increasingly hostile capitalist class
    Revisionist Dengists who want to follow a mix of state capitalism and neo-liberalism i.e. the current system
    Revisionist Liberals who want to go full on neo-liberal like the US (yikes!)

    Only reason that last group of utter twats hasn't gained power is because the other two together hold a vast majority, seeing each other as the lesser evil compared to shit-libs who want to take the country down a route that could ruin them and turn China into just another Global North puppet. Also, there is no way the peasants in China would tolerate liberal shock therapy after everything socialism has given them. They'd rather do another revolution, even if it means millions of deaths.

    This is a gross oversimplification of their issues, and there are actually three more minor (but not insignificant) factions, including the spiritual successors of the Fascist white terror. But this is the simplest explanation.
     
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    Ah, right.
     
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  9. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    Only change I would make to this is to replace American wokeism with Is-Not-Real style dog-whistling or settler colonialism.
     
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    It’s lucky you don’t live in china or Russia they will make you disappear if you post this .
     
  11. Shanks Legendary Member

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    @Blazing Storm why don’t you move to Europe less corruption more value to work force .
     
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    Russia, I can believe. But the strictness of Chinese police has been . . . greatly exaggerated, based on what I have learnt this past year.
     
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    Imperial core whose wealth is built off of exploiting the global south. Fascism on the rise. Literal Nazis coming to power everywhere. Eurocentrism on the wane even among western liberals. The famous European welfare state is slowly being eroded. Look at the UK as an example. France and Italy as well.
     
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    You mean Afd nah they are joke in Germany no one takes them seriously but they have some decent base in east Germany it’s growing but they are not Nazis .

    Dutch has been fair right wing most likely they are scared too many English speakers are eroding Dutch values .

    Overall not as bad as media portrays it .
     
  15. upsurge Revolutionary Pessimism

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    The mainstream media doesn't really portray it well enough.

    Discount Fascists are a stepping stone to full on Fascists.

    Lesser evilism voting for six decades has seen the US have a "moderate" POTUS candidate that is more right wing than Nixon and Reagan; the daughter of a literal Nazi activist becoming a kingmaker in France; Germany's Overton window shifting so far right that it's not even funny any more; the literal granddaughter of Mussolini and her little blonde pet pig rising in Italy; Hungary and Romania have gone to hell; Argentina having a leader that wants to make it legal for people to sell kids and wanting to abolish age of consent laws; and a new wave of Fascism is rising in Japan.

    I know the politics of Argentina and Japan should have nothing to do with European Fascism. But they sort of do. But that is a whole different topic.

    The world id going to hell in a handbasket, and all we can do is sit back and entertain ourselves.
     

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