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Normal Game Thread Big Trouble in Little Salem

Discussion in 'Normal Games Archive' started by Cow, Jun 22, 2017.

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  1. Punk Panda 1 Konobi

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    It is true Quick didn't push you compared to Prada but what I was conforming was how he came after you, unlike Prada who stated better ground Quick didn't do the same but came at you with not accountable reasons, and that is pretty scummy :/
    @Nick isnt taking an offensive take like @Quick, @Prada, @Nigean (cant spell) but instead is putting up (I'll contricict my self) dumb and posts which confuse me a bit. The post that he call a joke didn't seem like one to me so i stated I didn't see it as one, but I didn't see the post changing his position as it isn't important to his position scum or townie, So there for I see him as an innocent. The post wasn't at all a role fishing, if role fishing means to ask a question and try to get the person to reveal there role based on that question. I'm I off?? If I didn't clarify then I cant go any more then this :(
     
  2. ッCrimson Coding in Java

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    Wazzap guess i'll have to be doing some catching up
     
  3. wowee ~(◕‿◕✿~)

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    Sorry I haven't been here ;-;, have been too busy to keep up with the game today. Going to back-read now, hope I can reply before going to sleep/
     
  4. Quick Mafiahalic

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    Quit acting like its fact that I went after you because you went to bed. Its not. When I reevaluated Nick, I thought your push was Scummy.
     
  5. ッCrimson Coding in Java

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    Can someone explain why the lynch on prada? what about him that makes you feel suspicious?
     
  6. Quick Mafiahalic

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    "personal" arguments are more likely to come from Town fwiw. Its how I can tell if an argument is TvT or not.

    Wut?
     
  7. Bimbonium (。◝‿◜。)

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    @Quick now that you're here, mind telling us why you think Prada's scum.
    Why it's your "best bet"
     
  8. Rotaretilbo Regular Member

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    Lol, whoops. #8 was Reaper's vote. His vote is #11, which post timestamp shows coming in 1 minute prior to the countdown deadline. His unvote in #12 comes 10 minutes after said deadline. So neither post is really controversial. One comes in clearly before the deadline and is counted, the other clearly after and is not. Quick even acknowledges this in the second post, that he doesn't think it will be counted.

    Either way, Cow has already answered. The answer was that Ningen was lynched.

    Alright, let's try this again.

    Nick stated that Reaper didn't claim this game, and therefore must be Scum. This post can have one of three interpretations.

    • A) Nick believes that Reaper did not learn his lesson last game, and believes that he is earnestly Scum since he had not yet claimed at that point. This would be grossly incompetent on Nick's part, because Reaper only had a few posts up to then. This interpretation is further nullified by Nick's repeatedly stating that the post was a joke.
    • B) Nick believed strongly that Reaper had learned his lesson last game, and was just making a joke. Given Reaper's early performance in this game, I see no reason why anyone would believe with any certainty in Reaper's ability to not overreact to a joke, so this would require some level of incompetence on Nick's part.
    • C) Nick was trying to provoke Reaper into claiming by stating that his lack of claiming meant he was Scum. Given Reaper's exasperated, melodramatic behavior up to this point, it would be reasonable to expect him to claim in the face of such an accusation. If this were the case, it would constitute role fishing, and requires the least assumption of incompetence on Nick's part.

    Which of these three interpretations do you hold?

    Which is a wonderful coincidence, since you explicitly stated Ningen vs Prada was a TvT argument in #109, but then sought to lynch both of them. Could you please reconcile your highly accurate "just trust me, I'm almost always right" read against your subsequent behavior?
     
  9. ッCrimson Coding in Java

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    C is the most likely, at least to me. Given my reckless behavior, he probably thought it would be easy to fish my role.
     
  10. Quick Mafiahalic

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    I didn't see they were linked. Why does this matter?

    I don't see you asking many questions yourself. You just going to play the logic game all day? I don't consider playing the logic game Scumhunting fwiw. People are not completely rational, as Such, you have to look into the motivations of players rather than explicitly what is stated by them.

    I'm pretty sure you should be able to tell I thought Glob was Scum by my vote on them. Also, I explained my Tonal read on them twice in two different ways, so don't give me this "you didn't explain the read" shit. Yeah, I looked into the motivation of Ningen, something you seem incapable of doing. That is why I had a Town read on them that you fought that I was right about.

    You haven't substantiated what I was wrong about tho???

    Well then how would you would expect to see everyone giving how they investigate because that that is just no going to happen.

    3p is anything that isn't Mafia or Town.

    Where I come from, you just lynch all 3p so its a moot point in my eyes.

    Not everyone is going to play your game of how they investigate tho.

    Why does this even matter? Does it say who is Scum and who is Town??? If it doesn't, it serves no point. Also, you also mention proda once, why is that? If people think Nick was actually role claiming there, they are retarded or Scum, hence why I didn't like Prada's push on Nick, because I am pretty they should know better than that as Town.

    1.) How is it blind
    2.) A double day is statistically better for Town
    3.) How am I Scum for mixing up the VCs??? Ad hom detected.
     
  11. Quick Mafiahalic

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    Where have I implied I am always right? Strawman much?
     
  12. Quick Mafiahalic

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    I've explained this several times, rtft please. Prada is Scum because I see no way someone with their experience level to actually think that Nick was rolefishing.
     
  13. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    This isn't technically true. Third Party refers to all alignments that are not Anti-Town or Pro-Town. This has then been taken to mean Mafia and Town, respectively. The only Pro-Town faction is Town, so replacing Pro-Town with Town is reasonable enough, but while Mafia is the most common Anti-Town alignment, it is not the only Anti-Town alignment, so replacing Anti-Town with Mafia doesn't really cover the whole thing. Cult and Serial are also Anti-Town, as they cannot with with the Town or other Anti-Town groups.

    Mafia at its core is an Uninformed Majority (Pro-Town) vs an Informed Minority or Minorities (Anti-Town), which means that games do not necessarily have to include a Mafia despite the name of the game.

    It's a case of terminology changing and not conveying the full meaning behind the original terminology, really. One problem with Mafia is that it's so inconsistent from site to site not just in how it is played, but in what it actually is and the terms contained within it.
     
  14. Quick Mafiahalic

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    Well, that's what I call it. That's why there is only Town and Scum. Same reason.
     
  15. Prada memes win games

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    I still cant Access the Site from pc. Need to wait for the admins to help me in the discord.
     
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