Normal Game Thread Cow's Assassin Game (Canceled)

Glob is Globear

 

Infact this is too different from Glob town posting from last game

she is literally having no interactions , No pressure votes. No her I wanna hear them talk

She is being inactive and lurking

So Im really leaning scum on her rn.

 

Right, but why is it illogical for Scum to look at the exact same information as Town, and come to a completely different conclusion? If you know what OGC is, it is illogical to assume it only applies to Scum, whether you are Town or Scum. If you don't know what OGC is, it is logical to assume it only applies to Scum, whether you are Town or Scum.

Because, again, unless we're assuming Scum were explicitly given instruction on what OGC means (which, again, why would we assume this?), there is nothing intrinsic about being Scum that explains what OGC is any more than there is intrinsic for being Town.

I feel compelled to point out that accounting for the possibility of something is not the same as assuming that thing to be the case.

I mean, you've really just repeated your point. You've not actually addressed what is intrinsic about Scum that informs them about OGC, other than to assume that there is such a trait. And you've not really addressed any of the counterexamples people have given, other than to dismiss them out of hand.

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Claimed So Far
@Rotaretilbo - Innocent (#19)
@Ningen - Innocent (#21)
@Quick - Innocent (#32)
@Railgun99 - Innocent (#33)
@wowee - Innocent (#34)
@Bimbonium - Innocent (#36)
@Nick - Innocent (#52)

Posted (Since #19) but Not Claimed (or Objected)
@Crispickle
@Globear
@Prada
@Lord Maple

Not Even Posted (Since #19)
@Ratchet
@ッCrimsonReaper
@S H I N T O
@Shanks

 

Knowing shinto

Dudes gonna get modkilled/subbed

 

Tho I feel both these lists contain 1 scum min
With bottom one maybe 2.

 

Why would they ask for clarification on this if they were Scum?

So you are arguing that Nigen knows everything there is to know about OGC? Because that is my point. They don't know exactly what OGC is otherwise they would not have asked about it.

What is the motive for Scum and NOT Town to ask for clarification on OGC? There is none. There is only motive for Town to ask for clarification on OGC. Scum are going to assume that OGC applies to everyone. Nigen didn't do that, hence why I think its Townie.

That's fine, but I didn say that or imply that it was anywhere. Read my premise. I said it was a weak argument. I didn't say it was a lock. I am leaning toward Nigen being Town for the reasons stated tho.

Same could be said about the people arguing it isn't Townie. Its based on the same logical sequence.

In any case, you are likely not teamed with Nigen.

 

Never played a nightless game before so this oughta be interesting

 

???

 

Anatsu posted here so was response to it, Moved to chat now

 

Seeing how this is probably my first game on these forums y'all should conclude that I'm innocent which i am.

 

Because, as I've already stated several times, Scum need to appear to be Town, which means interacting outside of the thread in the same way Town can and do. OGC means that Scum can pretend to be Town and talk to real Town outside of the thread. But only if that Scum knows that Town is allowed to do that. Thus, Scum needs to know.

I'm arguing the opposite. How do you even come to this conclusion? My point is that being ignorant of OGC is alignment-agnostic. If you know how OGC works, you won't ask. If you don't know how it works, you will ask. You see how there's nothing in there about alignment? That was the point.

Again, why do Scum just assume OGC applies to everyone? I'm not arguing that only Scum would ask for clarification. I'm arguing that anyone who does not know what OGC is would ask for clarification, because the OGC rule applies to everyone. It arguably benefits Town more than Scum, but it still applies to everyone.

This wasn't addressed at you or your premise. It was addressed at Bimbo conflating Ningen making no assumptions about which kinds of Scum are present with Ningen assuming a specific kind of Scum is present. Which is why it appears after a quote from Bimbo wherein that conflation occurred.

Yes, that is the point. Which is why I am not arguing that Ningen is Scum, but simply that Ningen's act of clarifying a rule that neither Town nor Scum had additional knowledge of is not alignment indicative.

I mean, hosts generally don't assign factions based on one's tenure on a given site, because that would allow us to identify Scum through means other than the intended methods present in the game itself.

And I want to clarify to make sure that you understand that "innocent" here does not necessarily mean Town, because certain Town roles can investigate guilty. I don't want anyone to come crying to me later about how they are a Miller and misunderstood the exercise.

 

The OP wouldn't risk it by giving me a role i can't handle. you're just paranoid . Vanilla townie here nice to meet you.

 

Not exactly one to talk about paranoid... That was barely even a pressure post, why would you feel the need to claim?

 

all of this

 

But why would the host assume that you can't handle any Scum role? Or a simple PR?

...Sigh. Well, first lesson for you. You oughtn't claim your role unless asked to do so by something akin to a consensus. You certainly shouldn't claim your role when a player asks you to reaffirm that you understand what he's asking of you.