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Discussion in 'Normal Games Archive' started by SK, May 16, 2017.

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  1. Nikamara Department of Fabulous

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    Well I've been waiting for the conversation to pick up, but no luck.
    I'll dive right in.

    I don't believe in Day 1 voting. If we can abstain from voting, I will. Day 1 lynches, majority of the time, never flip scum. It's only gives the mafia a head start.

    I don't know any of you, and so I'm not familiar with your game meta, your personalities, or your posting style which can greatly influence my reads. So take these with a grain of salt. Just my first impressions.

    Green = Town feeling
    Orange = slightly suspicious
    Red = Highly suspicious

    Bimbo - Seems to want to be productive. Can only be town to my mind (or very experienced mafia).
    Cow - The classic work excuse of a mafia, just doesn't sit well with me.

    Globear - Seemed quick to jump on and off Ouki's back (see post #14, 16, 23, and 25). Inconsistencies like this can mean any thing from insecure townie afraid of making a mistake, or mafia scum trying to stay on the fence to avoid attention, while not resorting to lurking.
    Ansatsuken - I'm misa post is worrying, even as a joke
    Serperior - I got town vibes based on his reads of Ouki in post #21 and #24

    Ouki - I think others have elaborated on this enough.
    Amruc - Although people only focused on Ouki's major slip up, when I looked at his/her first post I got instinctive scum vibes actually. >.< As weird as that may seem, let me explain. The first line was off topic to some extent, with the second line being completely random. I'm not convinced this is the good kind of random, or a classic move to seem unassuming and thus avoid attention.

    The rest I'm very unsure about/ no feelings.
     
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  2. Nikamara Department of Fabulous

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    That was supposed to be in orange, my bad.
     
  3. Ansatsuken 1000 deaths

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    From that You have a chance to be the first Kira's victim I predict xd
     
  4. Nikamara Department of Fabulous

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    Not really. I think only inexperienced mafia would kill me for a post like that on N1.
    If I die in the first NP and flip town, anyone I even mentioned should fall under suspicion, even those I put in green.

    The suspects I pointed out for obvious reason
    and anyone I put in the green should be watched closely too if I die, because logically, if I was wrong, and they were scum after all, who would suspect that they did it?:cena
     
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  5. Nikamara Department of Fabulous

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    If I failed to accurately suspect any scum, logically I should live because they would have successfully avoided my attention, and it would be more beneficial to keep me around to go after the wrong people.

    :happyurr Hence I dared to stick my neck out....
    Hope this doesn't back fire :woahdere
     
  6. Ansatsuken 1000 deaths

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    That can be a fail assumption. Kira can be whoever and not just those people inside yur list. I played DN game(one of many, even hosted a numbers of game) where Kira was the 'quietest' person in the entire conversations in every phases. People just realized after its too late for them.

    The point I want to tell you, Kira can be anybody. What about the less involves? With little conversations in between. Do you wanted to play a trial and error and will eat town's advantages? They can be Kira or Mafia team or a good side. The loudest one can be 50/50 also.

    Its hard to set a target in the first phase unless you have some extramundane ability you acquired when playing DN in other place.
     
  7. SK SoulKiller

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    [​IMG]
     
  8. Coffee Cat Mother of Demonic Kittens

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    I think this is the first game ever played, when accusations are already flying so quickly after the DP started.

    For me it's too soon to truly point a finger on others behaviour, since there's limited information in the messages
    that's been posted to actually drag people to the slaughter house.

    With that being said Amruc's statement about being Kira, was super weird.
    So was the whole thing about Ouki.
     
  9. Nikamara Department of Fabulous

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    As I already said in my follow up post, me failing to point out any scum is also a possibility.
    :> Though you're the only fish to bite my bait. I'll be keeping a close eye on you my dear.
     
  10. Ansatsuken 1000 deaths

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    I'm okey if you wanted to include me inside yur 'suspect list'.

    But getting kill by Kira in the first round sure not a sweet experience especially in the game that last more than one day lol

    Kira may see your post as the reason to kill you much earlier. Yur analytic capability can be a problem for him and his team mates and also very annoying. Not means he is amongst the people you've listed there.

    Just beware.:lewd
     
  11. Nikamara Department of Fabulous

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    I think that's very obvious and comes with the territory of these games.
    But if I die, it's likelier they were on my list than not for reasons stated above, unless as I said, they're are very inexperienced mafia.

    Kira is just as likely to kill you if you are town in an attempt to frame me.
    Anyway, my playing style is pretty forward and it's usually a good thing, but I see we come from different schools of thought.
     
  12. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    Here.
     
  13. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    Common, maybe, but ideally they'd have some purpose to them, even if that purpose is merely to pressure a reaction out of the player.

    What that vote was I don't know. It wasn't even consistent in its reasoning, and we were only like 6 posts in. For one, nothing about Amruc's post came across to me as "I'm a newbie". In fact, his whole post was mostly just fluff, and it was his first post in the game, leaving absolutely nothing regarding his experience. And then, Ouki cites that he is placing his vote there to encourage people to read the rules, yet just a few posts earlier he had this opportunity for you, when you expressed confusion regarding the number of votes one was allowed to make. Instead of doing that, he quoted the rules instead, so it's weird to me that he'd claim is a vote to encourage newbies to read the rules when he had just passed on his chance to do just that before (encourage a reading of the rules, that is).

    The whole thing was just pretty strange to me.
     
  14. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    Well, it is. That's a fact, and I can prove it... with maths!

    Let's take a standard, 9 player setup. 7 Town 2 Mafia. Now, remember games generally should be balanced according to the golden 3-day rule - Scum should not be able to win before Town has 3 mislynches.

    So, let's say Day 1. Town mislynch. 6 v 2. Mafia kill. 5 v 2. Town mislynch again. 4 v 2. Mafia kill again. 3 v 2. Town mislynch again. 2 v 2 - game ends. Yes, I've assumed the worst case scenario here, but that's what we should be ding when comparing the benefits.

    Now, run that through, except not lynching Day 1 to avoid a likely mislynch. Town do not gain an extra Day Phase there. They gain an extra Night, which is primarily the Mafia's phase in which to kill.

    More importantly, though, is we really need to not just burn our lynches. It's the Town's strongest weapon, and not lynching Day 1 restricts what we have Day 2. Because with a mislynch, a Day 1 lynch gives information. Who voted, how did the voting progress, who was making an effort to stay away from the wagon and so on. Without that, Town are much more limited Day 2. In effect, it's like starting Day 1 all over again. All in all, it's a net loss for the Town.

    That's not to say there aren't situations where a No Lynch isn't a valid move. They exist, but generally it's pretty rare.

    That being said, I don't see what that has to do with a vote that you yourself said is likely only temporary. Are you implying that he would just keep it on there regardless, due to a mislynch being better? Because while it is, that does not justify the vote.
     
  15. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    This is fallacious. While of course you are going to hold more experienced players to a higher standard, excusing them of scummy play just because they are experienced does not stand up to reason. Even the most experienced players make mistakes y'know.
     
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