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Dragon Ball Super - Episode 111 Discussion

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Rave, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Well Hit put up a good fight, his trump card at least gave Jiren pause and probably would have beaten anyone else.

    Jiren is so confident, that he just can calmly meditate mid battle, i bet he hasn't even went full power yet.

    Looks like Cabba gets the spotlight next week.
     
  2. Gobb

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    Yeah, it's kinda bad that if someone helped to knock off Jiren, it likely would have succeeded. Maybe only he can attack the person with that other ability otherwise they break out though?
     
  3. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Maybe, though we don't know much about that ability. Someone else possibly interfering could have disrupted his attack.

    Honestly I think its going to take more than one person to take Jiren out. Even if Goku goes into Ultra Instinct again, he won't have the energy to keep up with Jiren or the power imo(Jiren to me looked like he was still holding back in their brawl). Maybe if Vegeta can reach Ultra Instinct as well and possibly fuse with Goku, to make Ultra Instinct Gogeta, then I think that would be enough to take him out.
     
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    Yeah, that's my thought that I mentioned after. It's possible moving Jiren would have broken him out.

    I meant if he was frozen there and someone were to try knock him over the edge it should have succeeded. Assuming Hit kept him frozen through it all. But if he broke out anyway, he probably could have even if attacked.

    It's hard to gauge the Goku vs Vegeta, keep in mind it was a Goku completely depleted with the spirit bomb powering him. He may be stronger fresh (which is like irrelevant now tbh) and if he gets more mastery.
     
  5. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    The Spirit Bomb was a shit ton of energy though, much more energy than he had before. He burned through it with Ultra Instinct and it looks like its not a power one can master just like that. Hence why I think he'll need help and I think Vegeta will come into play. Whis talked with the two of them before about Ultra Instinct before, though it was merely hinted at:

    So if their is a possibility of someone else reaching Ultra Instinct this arc, I'd believe it would be Vegeta.
     
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    Yeah, true. Nah, it's not, after all, he had no idea until Freeza mentioned to him what was discussed. And yeah, I know that Whis was trying to train Vegeta and Goku to it, which is why he was so excited when he figured it out. XD I agree that Vegeta is a candidate I also think Freeza is as well.
     
  7. Mahesvara Lostbelt King

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    Well I wasn't saying Goku knew what he did, it just sort of happened by circumstance.

    Idk about Frieza, since he just knows the term, not what's behind it or how to achieve it. Plus he seems more interested in having Goku take out Jiren than facing the problem himself. Its hard to say what he's planning anyway, but I'm thinking its going to be betrayal and the only questions are when and how.
     
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    Yeah, I didn't mean it in that way, just in the sense it depicted how hard it would be to master/unlock if he didn't even know what it was.

    That's true. Definitely. I like how he's not above doing stuff himself, but when convenient, will have someone do the work. Yeah, this is what's making every moment with Freeza interesting.
     
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    Well Frieza is generally really smart and tactical, if he knows he's completely outmatched he'll look for other alternatives as long as he keeps his ego in check, which he's done very well so far.
     
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    He's come so far in that regard from Namek. Not just having minions do everything too.
     
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    Even pure villains can have some character development of their own and still be a villain lol
     
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    Yeah, it's the best/most interesting he's ever been imo.
     
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  13. The episode was fine and all but why the heck didn't they just blast the edge of the arena so that Jiren falls off?

    Also, it's dumb how they didn't explain why Hit's time skip is ineffective but w/e.
     
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    It could go back to like SSB Kaioken Goku back in the third arc, could simply be a matter of Hit being unable to contain a power greater than his own, or something unrelated. I agree that it should've been stated and I feel like it'll just be skipped over.
     
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    Poor choice of words there. I would say i'm more interested in frieza's plan than anything else. And yes, I'm glad the replaced buu with him even though there was a lot of outrage.Buu would've been a boring walking blob tbh. And that's why you gotta love him, he has nothing good expectations for his teammates. If gohan can't deduce that much, he doesn't deserve to be on the stage. Frieza wouldn't dare betray universe 7 because he hates goku so much that he loves him. :>
     

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