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Discussion in 'Normal Games Archive' started by Lord Maple, Jun 7, 2017.

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  1. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    No, that's not what I'm going to do. Answer my question. Qualify the "Most of us" claim, or concede it. Time to stop deflecting back, SoulKiller.
    Thank you. And therein, SoulKiller, lies my point. You posited that we essentially ignore the inactives on your scum list today. That's why, you claimed, you were happy to throw your vote down early on me. The point I was trying to make to you is that you still have enough content from the likes of Rise and Rice to get a read on them. It stands to reason, then, that ignoring them this Day Phase is a bad idea. Because if you have enough from them to get a read on them, and you see that read as a scum read, you should never just ignore it to focus on one at LyLo. This is what I was talking about regarding being thorough. Post #1042. That's the one I have an issue with.

    Town, in this day phase, shouldn't be taking any of their scum suspects off the table. Because you just need scum. You can read me as stronger scum, sure, but you literally said that you're only going to stick here and won't move from it. That might just be the worst play you can make at LyLo.
     
  2. SK SoulKiller

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    I stated that by you pulling that move. You lowkey in my eyes tried to point out that if cop investigated you. Then he investigated ansa because you were swapped with him during the NP. You lowkey tried to throw a statement to appear that "if this actually happens then the guilty he got is because of ansa not me". You used an if statement that is completely false to begin with since cop was inactive during NP to make it look like you are not guilty/scummy. Kind of like a tricky scummy defense to get some green credit in the hopes people are not paying attention to the game and to get them view you as less suspicious.

    get what I mean? i pray to the gods you do.

    I miss use on words in my part. Hence why I used "low key" and not straight up clear. What I meant is above.
     
  3. Lord Maple ' ^ '

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    i see you watching the thread. wanna sub? eweeeeeeee
     
  4. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    Except that isn't an argument, because you haven't demonstrated how it actually helps me. You've just said I tried to pull it to help me. Pointing out that I can;t have been investigated only helps me to the point where the investigation doesn't prove I'm scum. It does not, in any way, help me prove that I'm Town. You are literally assuming that I'm either too incompetent to understand this, or I believe everyone else is too incompetent to understand this.

    So, essentially, it boils to "I think you did this thing to manipulate people even though this thing doesn't actually help you get the manipulation that you want". Do you not see how silly that is?
     
  5. SK SoulKiller

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    I deflected on something that we were discussing? what? huh? If anything that's exactly what you are doing by changing the topic by asking me a question lel.

    By "Most of us" I meant me, quick, globear, silver, me. I believe we are using the same content here where we took that claim.

    The rest of the players are inactive therefor irrelevant to the focus of the game and were reads matter. Actually STINK did make a read on you. Need to go back and check what he stated tho and see what his thoughts was.



    I elaborated more that what I meant is not that I am counting them out. It's more like I am taking the best person I view as scum and has most reads on and going for his throat. In this case it's you.

    I have issue with you not paying attention to the game ratchet. You're second point were you claim that I will focus ONLY in you is just down right a lie. Show me a post were I exactly stated I will "only focus on you". Go ahead, I have eternity. I said my vote will stick on you because I have you at my top scum currently. I never said I will not focus on the other people and only focus on you.

    By "give up" I meant trying to get more reads from the contents they provided since I went over it multiple times and it's almost nonexistence. They are inactive. They have 3-6 posts the entire damn game.

    I think you missed the part were I said.

    - If i got convinced otherwise by my townies.
    - if something popped up and one of the players in my scum list did something more scummy.
    -if you by some miracle you convinced me otherwise (this is one hella unlikely. You need jesus for this)

    Stop taking bits and pieces and use it in your own content that fits your own agenda making it seem like I will never ever under no circumstances change my vote.
     
  6. SK SoulKiller

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    I pointed something out for the rest of the players to take a look at and take it into consideration. It can also be used as an argument. Your excuse of not paying attention/forgot about the mod stating that cop was inactive NP1 is yours not mine. Hold responsible for the actions you represent in the game. How it will help you? it will help you by gaining some green credits. That's how.

    Sure you can paint it in your own world to make it look like it is a silly thing. But is it really?
     
  7. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    So you mentioned yourself twice. You're not two people, SoulKiller. Quick has me at Neutral, last I checked, not scum. Silver is dead. So, just you and Globear. 2. Like I said. 2 is not a majority of 9. I know, maths is hard.
    I mean, that seems pretty clear to me. You're saying that you're going to give up on the rest and that it's too risky to go for anyone else. You later say you're willing to change, but that doesn't discount what you said here.
     
  8. Quick Mafiahalic

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    This is getting quite pedantic...
     
  9. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    How does not being investigated help me?

    You still haven't answered that. You still haven't addressed the point. This is independent from me forgetting no action was sent Night 1. This is the bit where you show how I'd gain a significant advantage without assuming incompetence in some way.
     
  10. Schpittfeuer helpless chicken

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    Sorry, lately I barely can manage to do Sheep game summary, lack of time, there is no way in hell I could catch up to that mafia game at this point :D
     
  11. SK SoulKiller

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    majority of 9 where 4 of those players are inactives. That leaves 5 people active were their thoughts matter. Last DP quick had you as a lean scum if i am not mistaking. Sure this DP he has you as neutral that makes it still most of us. 2 view you as scum. 1 view you as neutral and 1 says that you might be a possible SK and the last one is you.

    I already elaborated on the most of us part and said by "most of us" I mean the active players. Read for the love for whoever you pray for read instead of making a smart ass post.


    Good job by dismissing everything I said which literally explains this post of yours and here you are restating the question. Talk about some next level dodging skills with deflecting skills. 10/10 ratchet.
     
  12. SK SoulKiller

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    Jesus Christ i EXPLAINED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY. But here you go gonna simplify it as much as humanly possible for you to finally grasp it.
    Because currently you are in the worst position. Among the active players beside you. 2 view you as scum. 1 view you as neutral and 1 view you as a potential serial.
     
  13. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    Well, Quick having me neutral means he cannot be lumped in with the "Most of us" comment. Prada, I believe, said "third party at best", so again, hardly "Most of us" material either. So, even if you ignore the inactives, that's 2 out of 5. Oh, would you look at that - still not a majority.
    And even with the active players, you still don't have a majority. Because 2 is not larger than 3.
    What did I dismiss? You claimed you never said something, when you pretty clearly did.
     
  14. SK SoulKiller

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    Gonna take a break need some water, and to smell some fresh air.

    no wonder why people avoid going into wallie wars with you ratchet. Like holy moly mother of broly.
     
  15. Ratchet Advanced Member

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    So now you've given up trying to defend the claim, and have fallen back onto the other point. Because Quick had scum reads, and Prada had scum reads, and if I'm neutral for them then that means 2 votes that aren't on me, and two votes that are, before I've even voted. You're massively overstating the position I'm in. I don't know why you are, either.
     
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