Discussion Mahouka Koukou No Rettousei General Light Novel Discussion.

I'm still on the 1st volume and 3rd chapter, and I just realised it now.

I'm gonna lose my fuckin shit.

 

Hopefully a summer holiday OVA would be moe! C:

Nothing besides the spoilers and vol 16 is suppose to be released this summer.

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The beach one and the presidential election one are the only one's they must make OVA's for.

Definitely, once you catch up to vol 14 though you'll have to live off spoilers for mean time lol.

 

Well the publisher said there wasn't going to be incest and the author said in a interview that he made them sibling so they would be really close, but wouldn't cross the line.

Anyway's I wouldn't care to much if they were like cousin or something, like second cousins like in Kaze no Stigma. However, if they are true siblings and get together, the most I would feel would be disappointment. I wouldn't let a small thing, like a pairing, ruin my thoughts on the series as a whole. It would be just a small blemish on an amazing series.

Seeing how incestrial relationships between siblings are illegal and the risk of defects from child birth are high, I really doubt that will be case. Kudo Retsu has a grandson who was essentially created in a lab and the sperm and egg donors were blood related, though he was gifted with Magic power that eclipses Miyuki and Lina, his body can not take his high psion count which makes him bedridden a lot of the time. They are unsure whether his frail body is caused by the experiment or the fact that he was made from DNA from blood related family member, but the fact that it could be because of the "incest" it still is concerning.

In my opinion Miyuki will probably end up with Masaki, while Tatsuya will either be with someone else or not get romantically involved with someone.

Well those are my thoughts lol, wbu yours?/mahesvara/

 

I still need to read ;-;

 

I would be depressed to say the least, but the fact that she's one of the worlds top tier magicians and the fact she is close to Tatsuya, thus she has the added bonus of Tatsuya armor /mahesvara/ I think she'll be fine, pretty much anyone close to Tatsuya is. Regrowth GG.

Don't talk about it, just do it! lol

 

I would be absolutely livid and demand a sequel novel series!

 

More detailed spoilers for vol 15.

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Chapter 1 part 1
Mayumi visited the 1st high school. She was a formal student president, but the school decided to treat her as a daughter of Saegusa family. She only appointed one person to meet, and that person is Tatsuya. She apologized for visiting school even though she thinks it is the best place to meet, but the school was getting noisy because of her visit. Tatsuya told her not to worry. He could say it to her because it is much better for her to visit him at the school than at Tatsuya’s home. At the home, he has many things that he does not wish to show other members of 10MC. With Mayumi’s eye, there is a risk of exposing them to Mayumi. And, Mayumi could search Tatsuya’s address and visit him, but by meeting Tatsuya at the school Mayumi may also become a part of gossip, so Tatsuya understand, visiting him at the school was her way of being thoughtful of Tatsuya. Mayumi asked Tatsuya how things are going. Tatsuya said, he will be responsible for thesis competition’s security, and he said, he may be a help based on Mayumi’s objective of this meeting. Mayumi asked Tatsuya about Nakura and asked him whether he knew anything. Tatsuya said, he read the newspaper. Mayumi said, Nakura was murdered, but she does not know the killer, but she states, her father, Koichi, knows the killer. She said, she knew Nakura was sent to Kyoto with a secret mission, and Tatsuya knows the meaning of secret mission, a job of underworld; he assumed it was an illegal or something close to illegal job. Tatsuya asks what Mayumi wants to do. Mayumi said she wants to know the truth. She said, she was never close with Nakura. It was a strict business relationship, and she only considered him as a bodyguard and a watcher. Tatsuya questioned Mayumi whether it is wise to risk herself for finding the killer. Mayumi replied Tastuya’s provocation by gazing him with anger. Mayumi said, she realized her bodyguard was killed under the order of Saegusa family. The family may not ask him to die for the mission, but Nakura died, so Mayumi thinks, it is her responsibility as a member of Saegusa family to learn the truth. Tatsuya praised her. And, Mayumi says, it may be her self-satisfaction, but if she does not know the truth, she cannot live proudly as the eldest daughter. Her statement made Tatsuya to have both admiration and repulsion from her. Unlike her, Miyuki cannot say anything about her background. He does not believe, the name, Yotsuba, carries both honor and pride, but he thinks, hiding oneself is sad thing. Tatsuya thought, Mayumi as someone to envy because she wants to be proud of her own lineage by comparing to Miyuki. It was not due to his emotion, but Tatsuya refuses to help her because he really does not know how to help her at this point. She stops Tatsuya and said the killer may be related to Yokohama. According to Mayumi, she thinks, Nakura was searching Chinese street at Yokohama. She said, Nakura always comes back with gifts when he left her side for other missions. Recently, Nakura gave her a lot of gifts from the Chinese street. Sometimes, Mayumi thought, Nakura is treating her as a little kid, but lately she thinks, Nakura gave gifts as a form of sign. From this conversation, Tatsuya found very important fact about Saegusa Koichi. Even if Saegusa is an employer, Mayumi is the target to be protected. For Nakura, She is not an employer. Better yet, she is the third person. Nakura’s action proved, Koichi’s trusted subordinate left hints to others about his activities. Tatsuya learned, Koichi failed to control his own man. Or, in some way Saegusa family does not have loyal followers. This can bring a big meaning in the future. At this point, Tatsuya thought, it is good to use Mayumi for helping him with mission because physically she is weak, but her battle capability was confirmed in Yokohama, and she is a college student, so her time is more flexible than Miyuki and Minami. Tatsuya decided to make Mayumi to ask for cooperation to Tatsuya. So, Tatsuya started by saying, Mayumi’s assumption may be wrong because Nakura’s visit to Yokohama may not be related to Yokohama Incident. Tatsuya made Mayumi desperate, and Mayumi finally requested the help to Tatsuya. And, he accepted. Mayumi and Tatsuya decided to visit Kyoto. Mayumi wants to see the place where Nakura died. Tatsuya replied by asking whether Mayumi will be satisfied with just looking at the location or not. Tatsuya’s intention was to hang out with her as much as the situation allows, but the question was something that Tatsuya should not ask. Mayumi says, she knows, she is only a daughter of Saegusa, and her talent as a magician is also limited at the individual level. She realizes, she does not have any power in society or power to influence police force and catch the killer on behalf of the police. Everything Mayumi said, was true, so he could not say anything. He knows he was able to deal with No Head Dragon and fight against invasion forces because of the help from 101 battalion. And, he could interfere with P-doll testing because of the help from Yakumo and the battle suit from the 101 battalion. He always knows the individual’s limitation, so he could not say any words to make her feeling better. So, he stopped Mayumi from talking any further and accepted her request. Tatsuya asked about Nakura’s remain. Nakura’s remain was already cremated. Tatsuya requested his cloth or his belongings if any. Mayumi said, she will contact cops through her family. Before her departure, she said, she was surprised with Tatsuya. She never expected Tatsuya to discuss kindly. In this short instance, Tatsuya thought, it is highly possible that Nakura was killed by Zhou. The theory about Koichi using Nakura to search for Zhou was also possible. If the possibility is not zero, the head of Saegusa may have been colluding with Zhou.

Chapter 2
Tatsuya sent off Mayumi from the school and meet with Miyuki, Izumi, Hanzo, Shizuku, Honoka, and Mikihiko. Miyuki greeted him and showed the sign (hand sign) to sit. Izumi started asking a question regarding Mayumi’s visit. Tatsuya apologizes for making her worry, and Izumi replied by saying, she did not worry about Tatsuya. And, Izumi’s face turned red and become quiet. After Izumi, Miyuki started asking a question regarding Mayumi’s visit. Even though Miyuki did not show any sign, she was the most worried person because Mayumi and Tatsuya met together alone. Tatsuya said, Mayumi has other business in Kyoto and she wants to join the 1st high group at the Kyoto. Instantly, Izumi realized why Mayumi visited the school. And, Tatsuya continued his talk and said, he rejected her request. Hanzo sighed after he listened Tatsuya answer. It was definite, Hanzo also had similar worries. But, in order to hide himself, he rigorously asked Tatsuya why he refused her request. He stated, it should not be bothersome for her to join. After hearing from Hanzo, Tatsuya thought, Hanzo is the one who wants to join Mayumi, and he thought Hanzo is too rigid. (In here, the narrator did not directly mention whether his worry is about his love interest, or he knows about Nakura. Personally, I think, he worried about Tatsuya and Mayumi’s relationship.) Right after Hanzo, Honoka jumped in and agreed with Hanzo. Honoka said, she thinks Mayumi visited Tatsuya because Mayumi must rely on Tatsuya even though she has Ichihara Suzune and Jumonji Katsuto at the university. Tatsuya could not reply right away because he did not understand Honoka’s motif. But, he concluded, Honoka sympathizes Mayumi. After Honoka, Mikihiko jumped in and said, maybe it is good to spare some time for her. Tatsuya couldn’t refuse Mikihiko’s request because it may create distrust from him when Mikihiko will be playing a critical role in this mission. And, it will provide a good excuse for Tatsuya to stay with Mayumi. Tatsuya personally think, he does not really trust what Mayumi can do in this mission, but he needs as many helps as possible due to the lack of manpower. He thinks, the most important part of his mission is after he caught Zhou. But, Maya’s request only says, Yotsuba wants cooperation for catching Zhou. If he cannot find Zhou, there is nothing to talk about. So, Tatsuya has to look like at least he is searching for Zhou. Tatsuya looked at Izumi and asked whether it would be okay to contact Mayumi because Mayumi is Izumi’s sister. Izumi replied that Tatsuya can do whatever he wants and turned around adorably. Yotsuba’s HQ located in old Yamanasi district and nearby old Nagoya district. It is a small basin surrounded by mountains. It is a small town, which is not shown on the map. Yotsuba’s HQ is located in the middle of its town. Unlike other places, Yotsuba only has one large one-story house. The master of House, Yotsuba Maya, is listening the report from Hayama. Hayama is reporting about the military intelligence’s activity and about intelligence division that interfered with their mission. Maya said, it is okay to let it go because the military has to save its own face even though the military interfered without knowing their place. Hayama did not question on Maya’s comment that undervalued the military. Maya stopped discussing about the military and changed its original topic regarding Tatsuya. Hayama reported, Tatsuya is not showing any sign of insubordination and also added, Tatsuya did not hide his new magic. Maya is putting a lot of time in magic research as well, so it was natural for her to be interested. Maya thought, his magic is a form of Particle Beam. But, Hayama analyzed and stated, Tatsuya’s new magic must be a form of Neutron Canon based on the name of magic. But, Maya stated, Neutron Barrier is already developed and assumed Tatsuya already knows about it. Then, she questioned why he chose the “Lance” for the name besides gun, canon, or launcher. Even Hayama cannot answer that question and advised Maya to see the magic during the family gathering event. But, Maya questioned Hayama why he did not ask the question. She thought, it is a good material to check Tatsuya’s obedience. Hayama apologized and said, he worried about jeopardizing Maya’s true objective behind the mission to Tatsuya. Maya said, there is nothing grand about her objective. And, it is not because Tatsuya is her nephew, but Maya simply felt, it is not beneficial for the family to exclude him. Hayama said, he thinks, it is okay to use his position as Maya’s nephew for the excuse. Maya scolded Hayama, and Hayama apologized. He ended with only a simple apology, and it is also related to Maya’s face turned slightly red. (This is my personal thought; Maya may turn her face red because she was thinking about using his position as her nephew to include him to the family, and Hayama hit the spot where she was thinking.) After the discussion with Maya, Hayama was visited by Mitsugu. Mitsugu visit was regarding Tatsuya. Hayama said, Mitsugu should know, the guardian of Miyuki is being tested with the mission of catching Zhou. The narrator said, Mitsugu thanks Tatsuya for saving his arm, but it does not mean, his pride is not damaged. Hayama continued saying, Miyuki is the most possible candidate for heir, and it is important to determine the possibility of betrayal for the sake of Yotsuba. He also apologized Mitsugu for using this mission as a test subject. Mitsugu replied by saying, there is no way that man holds any loyalty towards Yotsuba. Hayama questioned about Mitsugu’s judgment on Tatsuya’s loyalty. After the silence between them, Hayama said, “Tatsuya dono does not know the fact that he nearly got killed by the clan right after the birth. Are you being suspicious on everything by considering that fact?” Mitsugu yelled at Hayama. This is secret that everyone in Hayama’s generation did not talk about. Only Shiiba, Masiba, Sibata, Kuroba, Mugura, Tsukuba, and Shizuka know about it including Hayama. Even ones with Yotsuba blood does not know about this if they are under 20 years old. Hayama’s words were ambush that Mitsugu did not prepare. Hayama smiled and said, even he knows Tatsuya has no loyalty and will not have loyalty towards Yotsuba. Regardless of his loyalty, Maya asked Tatsuya to protect Miyuki. Hayama said, “Kuroba sama, loyalty is not needed. The most important thing is action. Even if he only acts as being obedient, as long as he does not betray expectation and outcome, it is much better than loyal ones who cannot produce any desired outcome. Tools do not require loyalty, and weapons do not require heart. Mitsugu got angry and questioned Hayama for calling a magician as a weapon. Hayama replied by saying, he is also a magician even though he is insignificant compared to members of Yotsuba. Hayama’s last words towards Mitsugu was, “Weapon does not fear. Weapon does not carry concern. There is always fear of possibility that one can fear or carry concern. Do you think, human’s heart with intention to kill innocent person is better than a weapon without heart? Hayama’s words speared through Mitsugu’s heart and Hayama walked away from Mitsugu.

Translator’s note: Hayama is using “dono” (殿) towards Tatsuya. He is also using あのか, (Anokata) when he talks about Tatsuya. The translator felt, Hayama is technically putting Tatsuya above Mitsugu in the conversation, so the translator also felt, the author is setting up the situation for Mitsugu to have additional reason to get angry towards Tatsuya because Mitsugu may think Hayama is underestimating Mitsugu over Tatsuya.

So far, there is no sign of Tatsuya being a Maya's son. For her, he is her nephew. Her face turned red because Hayama caught Maya's hidden intention. If the test goes to hell and everything fails, maybe she was thinking about using Tatsuya's status as a nephew of the Yotsuba's head and include him into the family. And, it is true, they try to kill him at the birth. It did not mention whether they failed or stopped. But, Mitsugu simply worries about the possibility of Tatsuya learning the truth. Well, nobody wants to piss off walking WMD. Unlike our expectation, Hayama is a nice guy. In the conversation, Hayama did not discredit Tatsuya and simply call him as a tool. This paragraph reflects Hayama's way of running organizations and human resources. At the end, he criticized, dumb jerks who tried to kill Tatsuya indirectly.

Chapter 3
October 19th Friday, Tatsuya and his friends were safe for ten days due to efforts from Kokonoe Yakumo’s pupils and mercenaries that were prepared by the butler, Hanabishi who was ordered by Hayama. Hanabishi is the number two in rank among employees. His responsibility is to prepare courageous jobs and other things including preparing people when Yotsuba family requires. (Its direct translation is courageous jobs; I think, it means jobs that require courage. Or, I think, frontal warfare unlike assassination and information manipulation that Yotsuba often does.) Yotsuba family does not really have many magicians in number. Even if it includes non-blood related magicians, the number of magicians that can be used, is much smaller than other 10MC. Of course, the number is smaller than Saegusa, and it is also smaller than Ichijou and Itsuwa. Yotsuba’s magicians are ones who have the ability to cover its disadvantage of having small number, but there are situations that quantity is more important than quality. For those situations, Yotsuba prepared and organized collaborators from the outside. Yotsuba normally get a job from the government; the job is to take care of a magician who commit substantial treason or tried to commit treason. Or, magicians who did not directly show aggressive activities towards the country but try to export magic that can be used for military. So, extermination of magicians who performed treasons, is often handed over to Yotsuba. These jobs are important income for Yotsuba. And, Yotsuba also gains extra battle magicians through this mission. They catch and brainwash magicians who betrayed the country. They are not making ‘regenerator’, a magician without its own will similar to No Head Dragon because Yotsuba knows will and emotions are strongly linked to power of magic. Yotsuba uses traditional type of brainwashing. Its brainwashing technique simply imprint fear towards Yotsuba. It technically forces them to believe, if they betray Yotsuba, they will die. However, Yotsuba does not accept zealots, ones without fear. They only offer the job to ones who can fear. Yotsuba normally say, ‘based on how you work, we will let you live freely.’ Yotsuba is operating many missions with this type of mercenary army who works hard in order to get their life as the payment. For this escort mission, it requires a large number of magicians because they have to catch any suspicious magicians, so Yotsuba family used reserved brainwashed magicians. As a result, not only Tatsuya’s friends, but 1st high school did not experience any disturbance. The scene changes to 1st high’s student council. Izumi was leaving the room and said goodbye to Miyuki. She was unhappy because she cannot follow Miyuki to Kyoto. Miyuki realized it and told Izumi that Miyuki is relying on Izumi for tomorrow and the day after. Izumi suddenly became so happy and said, it is honor, and I may not be enough, but I will work hard. Izumi left the school with a good mood. Honoka saw this and said, Miyuki has gotten used to deal with Izumi. Shizuku also added and said, Miyuki has a talent to become 悪女 (Wicked woman, evil woman, famine fatal). Miyuki replied by saying, between women, there is neither wicked woman nor celestial maiden (good woman). (Miyuki is saying, anything can be done between women.) Shizuku replied by calling Miyuki too cold, but Miyuki only smiled when Shizuku sighed seriously. Shizuku and Honoka have been going home together. The bodyguard has been protecting them outside of their sight, but within Commuter or Cabinet in train, they are alone together. They talk about the guard who is responsible for protecting Azusa. Azusa said, her guard, Chikura Tomoko (千倉 朝子) is enough to protect her. Chikura’s ability is revealed in this chapter. Her specialty is vector reverse. As long as she knows, she is being attacked, she should be able to handle the situation. But, if she gets ambushed, she cannot block just like most magicians. But, for an example, if somebody aims the gun right in front of her, she is very powerful. (It sounds weird, but it is direct translation. Blame the author.) And, she can handle not only weapons but people who run into her with great momentum. She can handle the mass equivalent to a small vehicle with the speed under 200 km per hour. After the dinner, Shizuku and Honoka are having a bath together. After shampooing, Shizuku offer helps with rinsing to Honoka. Initially, Honoka refused because Shizuku tends to put a lot effort in it. But, Shizuku took the bottle of rinse and started rinsing. Shizuku praised Honoka’s hair, but Honoka said, it is nothing compared to Miyuki’s. Shizuku replied by saying, there is no point comparing herself (Honoka) with Miyuki. And, Shizuku said, she likes Honoka’s bright color hair more than Miyuki’s because Miyuki’s hair is too heavy for Shizuku’s taste. (This is direct translation. Maybe, Shizuku simply likes Honoka’s hair color, or there may be hidden messages in this dialogue.) Honoka says, Shizuku is siding with Honoka over Miyuki because Honoka and Shizuku are friends. Shizuku suddenly stalled, but she said, “It is okay for choosing you because we are friends. Shizuka continues asking question. She asked to Honoka whether it is okay not to follow Tatsuya to Kyoto. Honoka suddenly stopped, and Honoka’s face gave chill to Shizuku. Shizuku apologized, but Honoka said, it is okay to ask if it is Shizuku because Shizuku has been cheering for Honoka. Shizuku and Honoka look at each other’s face and continue talking. Honoka admitted, she wants to follow Tatsuya to Kyoto. She cannot expect luxury of traveling to Kyoto only with Tatsuya. Honoka is fine even if Miyuki is traveling with them as long as Honoka can stay with Tatsuya. Shizuka asked why Honoka did not follow them, and Honoka said, she does not wish to be an obstacle to Tatsuya. Honoka realized, Tatsuya did not ask her to stay at Shizuku’s house because of thesis competition. She said to Shizuku, Tatsuya really worries about them and believes, the enemy is not a simple thief who is trying to still some data from thesis competition. Honoka was certain, there is a dangerous enemy just like the last year. Honoka and Shizuku thought, Tatsuya is on the mission from the military and assumed, the size of enemy is big enough to kidnap Honoka and Shizuku. Honoka reasoned, if Honoka and Shizuku are staying together, the bodyguard of Shizuku could cover both of them, and, Mikihiko is at the level of professional magician, so he can protect Mizuki. Honoka continued talking about her theory on this Kyoto trip. By considering members’ capabilities, the field research for security is one of minor objectives. She thinks, there is another true objective behind the trip. Honoka also assumed, things can get rough based on the progress of hidden objective because members of the team are specialized on the field work including Minami because of her shield magic. Shizuku told Honoka, Honoka can also provide the help, but Honoka rejected the idea and said, she can only support from the long distance, and she is afraid she may drag down Tatsuya. The narrator explained, Honoka’s battle capability is not low compared to average magicians. At least, she is the top class between high school students. But, by comparing Miyuki who is already super top class and Tatsuya who is considered to be above top class at the military, Honoka’s battle capability is at least one or two ranks below Miyuki or Tatsuya. So, Shizuku cannot say any words to comfort Honoka. Honoka said, he is okay and hug Shizuka’s head. But, the mood between them changed when Shizuku could not breathe because of Honoka’s chest. Honoka released Shizuku because when Shizuku tried to get away from Honoka’s chest, it tickled Honoka. After Shizuku was released, Shizuku looked at Honoka with bitter feeling. Honoka apologized and hided her chest. They both apologized to each other. They both laughed, and Honoka continued talking. She said, she wants to follow Tatsuya to Kyoto, but it is also true, she does not want to be an obstacle to Tatsuya. Thus, she will stay at Tokyo quietly. If Tatsuya does not want Honoka to notice, Honoka made a decision to act like she did not notice anything. Honoka wants to act as being fooled just like Tatsuya wants Honoka to be. After hearing Honoka’s words, Shizuku said, Honoka is good woman. Honoka suddenly lost her posture.

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Honoka: What are you talking about?

Shizuku: If I am a man, I wouldn’t leave Honoka alone.

Honoka: Excuse me……. Shizuku San? Your eye is getting scary.

Shizuku: Your style is okay. Your look is friendly and cute.

Shizuku’s thin finger is touching Honoka’s chin.

Honoka: You are like Eimi (Akechi Eimi; 明智 英美).

Shizuku: My chest is bigger than Eimi’s

Honoka: That is not the problem.

Shizuku: Do you want to say there isn’t much difference compared to yours? (Shizuku is assuming, Honoka thinks, difference between Emi and Shizuku’s chest size means nothing to Honoka)

Honoka: I did not talk about that.

Shizuka: let’s see

Honoka: (screams)

Shizuka: I knew this, but this is absurd.

Honoka: Wait… Shizuku… Please stop.

The narrator states, it is hard to specifically describe what is happening and do not wish to write in detail. But, the narrator concluded it by saying, “let’s say, on that day, both of their heads really have gotten hot in the bath” (This is not my words, and this is also not translators’ words. This is the author, Satou Tsutomu’s words at the end of this part.)

As last time, I did my best for translating the part.

Everything is the direct translation in summary version except the last part because I think, it would be better to show the actual communication between Honoka and Shizuku then a simple summary.

I also used parenthesis for explaining few parts that may not make a sense because of direct translation.

One more note!!!

I do not think, Honoka is out of game.

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Thanks to millie10468

So the kind anon translated the Tatsuya's FAE magic explanation for us.

Name: Baryon Lance/Gun or Heavy Gun (??)

1. Tatsuya uses his right hand for new magic, left hand uses "regrowth"

2. On the right hand CAD there is some blade like object placed under

3. When the new magic is used the blade disappears

4. Then he uses "regrowth" to bring back the blade

5. Using the FAE theory (Visitor Arc) and movement type magic

I think this new magic "decomposes the blade, after it uses the heavy metal substance to create a "heavy machine gun" and shoots it. Lastly, since he can keep using "regrowth" on the blade, this type of magic has unlimited uses.

Note that it's failed so far since he burned his right hand. I think the chapter 1 spoilers mention that.

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Nice what volume? 12?