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Discussion One Piece Manga Chapter 1154 Discussion and 1155 Predictions

Discussion in 'One Piece' started by Gobb, Jul 11, 2025.

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    Not going to lie. This flashback is kinda dogshit. If Ida is so good, why wouldn't she take care of Loki? She's a one dimensional character just focused on Hajrudin, pretty much. How is it possible that Harald doesn't know basically everyone hated/talked about Loki being cursed? Why would he palm him off to the brother of a woman he most likely never even met? The first meeting with Estrid was basically when she came and said they'd be married. The brother isn't someone you would trust a son with. Wouldn't Loki have been better off with basically any person under his direct command or Ida? The whole "loki gave up on love after a few months" is completely retarded lmao. It gets a bit tiresome that citizens of the countries always suffer from extreme mob mentality. Estrid still just exists for "she's so bad! poor loki" points. Also, they hate Hajrudin for being "illegitimate" while wanking Loki as the "true heir" but also hate Loki for being "cursed" lmao. It's completely asinine.

    At least we got the Rocks enter at the end which was nice. The face kind of doesn't fit the body, imo. But it'll probably grow. He cut the mountain with his fingers? Barto's fruit or Buggy's?
     
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    If anyone got a Strawhat type of flashback, it's Loki. Abandoned by very birth and knew no love. That quote of "but nothing he did, filled the hole in his own heart". I really really love how Oda makes Luffy simply not care what one is. All Loki ever needed was acceptance and love. I don't blame what Loki is doing, he is giving me Naruto vibes with trying to get attention. Hits hard knowing he tried to suicide. Harald seems like a people's person, him dying and having Loki bear the blame is so baaaaaadddd!!! I still feel like Loki got that onto himself since people hated him anyways.

    Xebec looks absolutely amazing. Looks so epic man!! I see he isn't a scardycat compared to Teach xD

    Ngl I don't see what Whitebeard seen in him, of all people WB is such a different type of guy to Xebec. I wonder what was the deal here, surely he didn't see a family in this aggressive setting? This flashback IMO is so good so far, I enjoy flashbacks so much!!!
     
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    To be honest, considering Elbaf is run by history and the bloodline, I don't see how wanking over Loki is bad since he truly is the heir to the throne. Ida can't take care of the true heir since she isn't a fullblooded girl from Elbaf, how would that make sense? A half blood taking care of a literal prince? At least in this setting this makes total sense, also Loki's mom was still alive at this point. If anything I feel like this is Harald's fault for being an ignorant dumbass.

    Estrid is a shit character though true, she served her purpose for making a monster out of Loki but it's just poorly done.
     
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    the duality of opinion xD not looking for a reply to that just honest opinions so far but funny how it's complete opposite xD
     
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    Bro you answered as soon as I clicked reply and I also noticed, I laughed xDxDxDxD like this is literally BB and Luffy moment with a pie xDxDxDxD I am crying

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    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I AM CREASING!!!
     
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    Says who? Harald is the king. He can literally do whatever the **** he wants. It's just a cheap excuse. Your argument point is basically "it's because of cultural reasons" but that entire thing falls apart when basically everyone turned on Loki for a bunch of fairy tale superstitions that may not have even originated in the country. They put that above the literal crown prince. That's far more egregious than if Ida were to raise Loki. Or like I said, one of the guards or whoever under Harald's direct command that wouldn't treat him bad.

    What do you mean she was still alive? Loki as a baby was in the castle/thrown out/in the castle. It was after her funeral that we get the panel of Loki with his uncle, unless I missed an earlier one. I am also placing blame on Harald too lol. It makes no sense that he wouldn't know about how the people feel about Loki when virtually all of Elbaf screams about him being cursed and the blame of Estrid's death and their misfortune. Hell, he even arrived to his own citizens attacking his other lover/child. That's basically treason. LMAO.

    Yup.
     
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    LMAO Legit.
     
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    Well I guess he isn't above the culture though, everyone turned on Loki later no? In this chapter everyone was still of the opinion it's just a coincidence. Later I get since he is blamed for killing their king and going against his own people. Up untill now I feel like Loki is just a fallen hero. As now in this point in story, I don't think Ida being close to Loki made sense since Ida was forbiden into marrying the king, her being close to the heir wouldn't make sense IMO.

    Wasn't he called cursed because of a prophecy that Harald would be slain by his own son? Not because of the eyes? Loki couldn't win either way.
     
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    Did you forget where he was changing their culture and had the giants throw away their whole war thing for peace too? You're not looking at the larger picture. It just seems like it's something you need to gloss over. If you find nothing wrong with it fine. I mean, obviously not 100% of everyone was against Loki. But a lot were of that opinion. My point was just it seems like hypocrisy and a double standard of when it is and isn't acceptable to throw "culture" out the window. You can make infinite arguments against or for Ida, but I already said twice now (Or anyone else completely loyal to the king. Like why the uncle? LMAO. Estrid marrying into the royal family might have elevated her family's status, but it's not like it makes the uncle royalty. I think we agree on this, but you're just hyper focusing on Ida specifically.)

    It's fair to say it's reasonable she isn't close to Loki. But it just rubs me a little the wrong way how she seems to be portrayed as basically a saint when it comes to giants, and was the reason for Harald doing a complete 180. But at the same time, her character is basically just a void when it comes to Loki. It's like he doesn't even exist to her. It's just weird. Idk, but the way her her "saintly" thing was portrayed, I would have thought she'd be the type of person to have compassion here. Especially when the treatment Loki faced is basically the same as she and Hajrudin, which I think it's the point. They were both basically treated similarly and shouldn't hate each other but do because [reasons]. Again, just seems forced that specific way for the flashback. But I can't say it made her feel like a good character. Like I said, she's basically just one dimensional for Hajrudin now.

    What I mean is, the whole prophetic shit is literally just random shit that seemingly has nothing to do with Elbaf's actual culture. As far as I know, Estrid was taught the random hippie/gypsy shit from some random. For some reason, the elbaf people also eat it up.

    Pls no more big replies they kill me. xD
     
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    To be honest now when you said it at bold, yeah you are right, pretty weird though. I hope this gets explained when and if Ida dies hmm. Idk, you can change Elbaf being peaceful and stuff but you can't change the identity of bloodline since they are proud, idk seems tricky this situation.
     
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    Presumably it's because it's rushed.
     
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    Are people in Elbaf retarded?
    >Hajruddin can't be seen with Harald cause he's a bastard
    >Loki is shunned because he is cursed and brings bad luck

    Lmao, like dude. Pick a child to traumatise.

    I like Harald, he looks like someone with a martyr complex. I'm certain the WG and Gods Knights have something to do with his death. They don't want Elbaf to link with the rest of the world.

    Rocks reveal was.... unexpected. I did not expect him to have features like BB, I thought he'd look like Caesar Clown. Wonder what's the reason for introducing him as BB's father as soon as he's introduced? Maybe cause he looks so much like the guy xD
     
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    Bro are we ignoring the fact kid Loki had his eyes covered...does that mean he has insane level of CoO or his eyes let him see through it??!?!?

    Like, Loki might be generational not gonna lie yeah. His potential feats could be the best ever from any character in the series so far, everything going his way to be absolutely overpowered.
     
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    Yup lol. They basically just fall to mob mentality.

    Yeah, something is obviously up with his death. It seems doubtful the giants just betrayed him, idk.

    Yeah, I think because they are 1:1 basically in the face there was no point trying to hide that.

    Probably would.
     
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