Discussion One Piece Manga Chapter 1154 Discussion and 1155 Predictions

"I can't even die"

Discuss One Piece Manga Chapter 1154 and predict One Piece Manga Chapter 1155.

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Not going to lie. This flashback is kinda dogshit. If Ida is so good, why wouldn't she take care of Loki? She's a one dimensional character just focused on Hajrudin, pretty much. How is it possible that Harald doesn't know basically everyone hated/talked about Loki being cursed? Why would he palm him off to the brother of a woman he most likely never even met? The first meeting with Estrid was basically when she came and said they'd be married. The brother isn't someone you would trust a son with. Wouldn't Loki have been better off with basically any person under his direct command or Ida? The whole "loki gave up on love after a few months" is completely retarded lmao. It gets a bit tiresome that citizens of the countries always suffer from extreme mob mentality. Estrid still just exists for "she's so bad! poor loki" points. Also, they hate Hajrudin for being "illegitimate" while wanking Loki as the "true heir" but also hate Loki for being "cursed" lmao. It's completely asinine.

At least we got the Rocks enter at the end which was nice. The face kind of doesn't fit the body, imo. But it'll probably grow. He cut the mountain with his fingers? Barto's fruit or Buggy's?

 

the duality of opinion not looking for a reply to that just honest opinions so far but funny how it's complete opposite

 

Says who? Harald is the king. He can literally do whatever the **** he wants. It's just a cheap excuse. Your argument point is basically "it's because of cultural reasons" but that entire thing falls apart when basically everyone turned on Loki for a bunch of fairy tale superstitions that may not have even originated in the country. They put that above the literal crown prince. That's far more egregious than if Ida were to raise Loki. Or like I said, one of the guards or whoever under Harald's direct command that wouldn't treat him bad.

What do you mean she was still alive? Loki as a baby was in the castle/thrown out/in the castle. It was after her funeral that we get the panel of Loki with his uncle, unless I missed an earlier one. I am also placing blame on Harald too lol. It makes no sense that he wouldn't know about how the people feel about Loki when virtually all of Elbaf screams about him being cursed and the blame of Estrid's death and their misfortune. Hell, he even arrived to his own citizens attacking his other lover/child. That's basically treason. LMAO.

Yup.

 

LMAO Legit.

 

Did you forget where he was changing their culture and had the giants throw away their whole war thing for peace too? You're not looking at the larger picture. It just seems like it's something you need to gloss over. If you find nothing wrong with it fine. I mean, obviously not 100% of everyone was against Loki. But a lot were of that opinion. My point was just it seems like hypocrisy and a double standard of when it is and isn't acceptable to throw "culture" out the window. You can make infinite arguments against or for Ida, but I already said twice now (Or anyone else completely loyal to the king. Like why the uncle? LMAO. Estrid marrying into the royal family might have elevated her family's status, but it's not like it makes the uncle royalty. I think we agree on this, but you're just hyper focusing on Ida specifically.)

It's fair to say it's reasonable she isn't close to Loki. But it just rubs me a little the wrong way how she seems to be portrayed as basically a saint when it comes to giants, and was the reason for Harald doing a complete 180. But at the same time, her character is basically just a void when it comes to Loki. It's like he doesn't even exist to her. It's just weird. Idk, but the way her her "saintly" thing was portrayed, I would have thought she'd be the type of person to have compassion here. Especially when the treatment Loki faced is basically the same as she and Hajrudin, which I think it's the point. They were both basically treated similarly and shouldn't hate each other but do because [reasons]. Again, just seems forced that specific way for the flashback. But I can't say it made her feel like a good character. Like I said, she's basically just one dimensional for Hajrudin now.

What I mean is, the whole prophetic shit is literally just random shit that seemingly has nothing to do with Elbaf's actual culture. As far as I know, Estrid was taught the random hippie/gypsy shit from some random. For some reason, the elbaf people also eat it up.

Pls no more big replies they kill me.

 

Presumably it's because it's rushed.

 

Yup lol. They basically just fall to mob mentality.

Yeah, something is obviously up with his death. It seems doubtful the giants just betrayed him, idk.

Yeah, I think because they are 1:1 basically in the face there was no point trying to hide that.

Probably would.