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Discussion One Piece Manga Chapter 1164 Discussion and 1165 Predictions

Discussion in 'One Piece' started by Gobb, Oct 31, 2025.

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  2. Laraib aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    I clapped after reading the chapter. God Valley flashback is 10/10. Probably the best flashback in OP, period.
     
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    WHITEBEARD IS HIM!

    This Shanks dumbass is sleeping in the chest LMAO I love Shanks so much LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Dragon having his I am weak moment, I see what you are doing Oda, we about to witness PEAK again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THAT PANEL OF ROGER AND GARP STANDING SIDE BY SIDE FACING ROCKS, PEAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!! I ******* love that Marine aesthetics, wearing the Marine jacket as a cape is so bloody badass!!

    Do they have the voice of all things? Surely that's voat? Garp having it makes sense considering Luffy has it.

    BANGER CHAPTER!

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    I hope we actually find out the timeline of events because it's currently kind of confusing. It seems like Davy Jones would be an existence prior to Joyboy. But if he was the King of the World, then why was the conflict vs Joyboy 20 kings including Imu that later became the world government and Imu became the King of the World? But in that case, Joyboy was the first pirate, but I could've sworn that Davy Jones was also a pirate. Wouldn't Davy Jones have been killed if his throne was usurped? Shouldn't the conflict have been Davy Jones vs Imu/20 kings? Unless it was Joyboy vs Davy Jones and Imu was part of the 20 kings, and Imu later usurped the throne from Davy Jones? Plus, Vegapunk's speech indicates basically a battle of two ideals, but that's not true. Davy Jones, Joyboy and Imu all seem to have different ideals, so isn't it a battle of three ideals not two??? Idk, feel like the time line is extremely convoluted with what we currently know. Hopefully this is cleared up.

    Also, Oda almost makes you think that the D is Davy but it's not. Because there were mentions of "The will of D" which lines up with what Rocks is saying about someone carrying out Davy's will. But it's obviously not Davy because Davy Davy Jones makes no sense, and if I recall correctly, the D has something to do with the half moon people or some shit.

    It's also clear Davy Jones and Joyboy are different people (which was obvious and makes the most sense).

    Interesting that Rocks resisted Imu's thing for a bit, before succumbing. The way they talk about Imu I'm 99% sure it's not the original Nerona Imu. I'm very sure it's some demon or something. Also, I wonder if Eris knows about Imu because Rocks told her? I had a thought that maybe Toki or another time fruit user sent her to this time. She seemed to know a bit. Kuma in with the clutch save!

    Interesting that it seems like Garp also has the voice of all things? I like how it ended up how a lot predicted with Imu Domi Reversing Rocks, then Garp and Roger forced to team up to take him out.
     
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    Bro I was devastated when Luffy lost his coat from Wano rooftop. ;_; Dude finally was looking good, only for it to **** off.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Imu killed Davy over jealousy. Might be a stretch but but the way Rocks is telling about Davy it's as if he wasn't a bad guy at all? If Rocks is a descendant of Davy why would he oppose Imu, wouldn't he join him?

    I think this is a bit of a foreshadow of CoC making demon powers weaking making Rocks immune for a second. Happens straight after CoC was visible in that BRING IT ON ROCKSSS panel!

    I think this arc foreshadows many things in so ways.

    I genuinely think Luffy, Dragon and Garp will unite and body Imu.

    As in Pirates, Revs and Marines.

    As in Luffy, Sabo and Koby. I feel like Oda is hinting towards Marines rebelion so much now with these panels of Roger and Garp. To defeat the ultimate evil everyone should drop their beliefs and simply exterminate Imu.
     
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    Yeah, Davy Jones doesn't seem bad based on Rocks, but then Teach really doesn't seem like a good person. Wasn't his goal essentially to become King of the World of a lawless world basically? Maybe the order of things in the past was that Davy Jones was the one who originally went against Joyboy and became the first king of the world, then maybe Imu killed Davy Jones and ursuped the throne? But then based on what Rocks is saying, Imu seems afraid of both Joyboy and Davy jones. Idk how he even defeated them if Imu's a big bitch about them. Idk it seems weird. But maybe it will be BB + Luffy against Imu? I really don't see this though.

    Maybe. Also I think Rocks didn't want the Nika Fruit, or maybe it was Nika Fruit + the fruit Loki ate, because he said one of them was on Elbaf and it would only have the full potential if Harald ate it. So imo it's either Nika Fruit + Loki's fruit of Loki's fruit + Teach's fruit.

    Yes it's obvious that Sword + Revs + Luffy's allies will all fight against Imu in the final war.
     
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    I feel like Teach is a scumbag because he somehow got told the truth and went above and beyond to accomplish his goals, tbh we still don't know his plans do we? I seem to forget if we do.

    To me I feel like Imu is more scared of Joyboy than Davy, there's many panels of Imu specifically emphasizing on Joyboy than Davy.

    We don't know Loki's fruit, Loki could also be Sun God. Sun God is portrayed as both God of Liberation and God of Destruction. At least in Elbaf.

    Surely Yami must be important since Teach was so focused on that one fruit.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure on Teach's end goal, but I could've sworn it was mentioned or implied he basically wanted a world wide Hachinosu with him as the King of the world, but I might just be misremembering.

    They're very much put together now. Previously Davy Jones had barely any mentions, and is only being brought forth front and centre here, so it makes sense previously nothing was overly mentioned.

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    They seem to be of equal threat to Imu. Imu also had a big reaction to Joyboy's Haki, but I mean, that's because he literally felt the Haki, so it's not much of a surprise. But yeah, maybe Joyboy was the bigger threat, maybe not.

    Yeah, it's possible. Could be a few different things tbh.

    That's the thing, everything kind of feels weird. Like previously the thing was just seemingly Joyboy vs Imu ideals clash/war. But now Davy Jones is thrown into the mix. Even Vegapunk's speach was just two sides, but BB is very clearly not on Luffy's sides. IIRC Luffy was a peace main pirate and Blackbeard was a morganeers (basically peaceful I think vs destructive) and then Imu's side is a third ideal. Although maybe that was dropped now...

    And that's the other thing right, like you would think the two fruits would be Nika and Dark Dark fruit, right? Because BB and Luffy are both obviously their own "main" characters. BB is or was the main antagonist and Luffy was the main protagonist. Maybe this is now ruined and not the goal, idk. But Loki's fruit seems like one of the two. Nothing is really lining up now.
     
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    Luffy and BB are clearly portrayed as EXACT opposites. So I feel like they must clash. Though ultimatively, if BB wants to be the king they indirectly have the same goal of defeating Imu unless they defeat Imu and Luffy and BB ultimatively fight for the One Piece.

    I feel like we still know so little tbh.

    Though I reckon we'll learn more in Elbaf, we must right?
     
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    I mean, technically, but can you really see Luffy teaming up with Blackbeard?

    I hope things are cleared up on Elbaf, because yeah right now it's messy.
     
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    I don't at all tbh, unless Teaches actions gets somehow explained to the point people can understand him but I think that's not happening.

    I find it interesting though how Shanks went from the bad side to the good side and Teach vice versa.

    Yeah it's getting very messy atm. Idk how will that all tie together. Teach must be huge to the story, he is constantly portrayed as massive figure.
     
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    I appreciate Teach as a character the way he is. No need for him to be "good" secretly or whatever.

    Yeah, lol.

    Teach is a key pillar to the story, but yeah, now it's just hard to know specifically in what way.
     
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    Damn Loki's flashbacks are crazy
     
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    The flashback is about why he killed Harald btw xD
     

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