Discussion One Piece Manga Chapter 1164 Discussion and 1165 Predictions

"Davy's Blood"
Discuss One Piece Manga Chapter 1164 and predict One Piece Manga Chapter 1165.

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I hope we actually find out the timeline of events because it's currently kind of confusing. It seems like Davy Jones would be an existence prior to Joyboy. But if he was the King of the World, then why was the conflict vs Joyboy 20 kings including Imu that later became the world government and Imu became the King of the World? But in that case, Joyboy was the first pirate, but I could've sworn that Davy Jones was also a pirate. Wouldn't Davy Jones have been killed if his throne was usurped? Shouldn't the conflict have been Davy Jones vs Imu/20 kings? Unless it was Joyboy vs Davy Jones and Imu was part of the 20 kings, and Imu later usurped the throne from Davy Jones? Plus, Vegapunk's speech indicates basically a battle of two ideals, but that's not true. Davy Jones, Joyboy and Imu all seem to have different ideals, so isn't it a battle of three ideals not two??? Idk, feel like the time line is extremely convoluted with what we currently know. Hopefully this is cleared up.

Also, Oda almost makes you think that the D is Davy but it's not. Because there were mentions of "The will of D" which lines up with what Rocks is saying about someone carrying out Davy's will. But it's obviously not Davy because Davy Davy Jones makes no sense, and if I recall correctly, the D has something to do with the half moon people or some shit.

It's also clear Davy Jones and Joyboy are different people (which was obvious and makes the most sense).

Interesting that Rocks resisted Imu's thing for a bit, before succumbing. The way they talk about Imu I'm 99% sure it's not the original Nerona Imu. I'm very sure it's some demon or something. Also, I wonder if Eris knows about Imu because Rocks told her? I had a thought that maybe Toki or another time fruit user sent her to this time. She seemed to know a bit. Kuma in with the clutch save!

Interesting that it seems like Garp also has the voice of all things? I like how it ended up how a lot predicted with Imu Domi Reversing Rocks, then Garp and Roger forced to team up to take him out.

 

Bro I was devastated when Luffy lost his coat from Wano rooftop. ;_; Dude finally was looking good, only for it to **** off.

 

Yeah, Davy Jones doesn't seem bad based on Rocks, but then Teach really doesn't seem like a good person. Wasn't his goal essentially to become King of the World of a lawless world basically? Maybe the order of things in the past was that Davy Jones was the one who originally went against Joyboy and became the first king of the world, then maybe Imu killed Davy Jones and ursuped the throne? But then based on what Rocks is saying, Imu seems afraid of both Joyboy and Davy jones. Idk how he even defeated them if Imu's a big bitch about them. Idk it seems weird. But maybe it will be BB + Luffy against Imu? I really don't see this though.

Maybe. Also I think Rocks didn't want the Nika Fruit, or maybe it was Nika Fruit + the fruit Loki ate, because he said one of them was on Elbaf and it would only have the full potential if Harald ate it. So imo it's either Nika Fruit + Loki's fruit of Loki's fruit + Teach's fruit.

Yes it's obvious that Sword + Revs + Luffy's allies will all fight against Imu in the final war.

 

I'm not 100% sure on Teach's end goal, but I could've sworn it was mentioned or implied he basically wanted a world wide Hachinosu with him as the King of the world, but I might just be misremembering.

They're very much put together now. Previously Davy Jones had barely any mentions, and is only being brought forth front and centre here, so it makes sense previously nothing was overly mentioned.



They seem to be of equal threat to Imu. Imu also had a big reaction to Joyboy's Haki, but I mean, that's because he literally felt the Haki, so it's not much of a surprise. But yeah, maybe Joyboy was the bigger threat, maybe not.

Yeah, it's possible. Could be a few different things tbh.

That's the thing, everything kind of feels weird. Like previously the thing was just seemingly Joyboy vs Imu ideals clash/war. But now Davy Jones is thrown into the mix. Even Vegapunk's speach was just two sides, but BB is very clearly not on Luffy's sides. IIRC Luffy was a peace main pirate and Blackbeard was a morganeers (basically peaceful I think vs destructive) and then Imu's side is a third ideal. Although maybe that was dropped now...

And that's the other thing right, like you would think the two fruits would be Nika and Dark Dark fruit, right? Because BB and Luffy are both obviously their own "main" characters. BB is or was the main antagonist and Luffy was the main protagonist. Maybe this is now ruined and not the goal, idk. But Loki's fruit seems like one of the two. Nothing is really lining up now.

 

I mean, technically, but can you really see Luffy teaming up with Blackbeard?

I hope things are cleared up on Elbaf, because yeah right now it's messy.

 

I appreciate Teach as a character the way he is. No need for him to be "good" secretly or whatever.

Yeah, lol.

Teach is a key pillar to the story, but yeah, now it's just hard to know specifically in what way.

 

The flashback is about why he killed Harald btw